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Filed: Other Country: Romania
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It wasn't a marriage based case. We had an EB3 case, he entered with F1 with D/S, but didn't return  after he completed his studies, so couldn't adjust in the USA. I had unlawful presence  but went with an approved I601A.  Very complicated case, but I am so glad we were to get our case processed before this new law.

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41 minutes ago, hoangthaihuy said:

It doesn't effect marriage-based AOS.

Only if exempt from the unlawful status bars to AOS (i.e. immediate relative of a USC). It does impact those who are not exempt, such as employment-based AOS, LPR petitioners (including spouses), and non-immediate relatives of a USC (i.e. adult son/daughter or a sibling).

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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I for one am glad this new regulation  is coming in, it’s been a slap in the face for those of us who do everything properly that so many people have just abused the old system with no consequence. 

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Filed: Other Country: Romania
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4 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

I for one am glad this new regulation  is coming in, it’s been a slap in the face for those of us who do everything properly that so many people have just abused the old system with no consequence. 

I understand your point, but in my opinion there are consequences and they are rough! I wish I knew 15 years ago what overstaying the visa means, I honestly had no clue. I listened to the wrong advice- wait until you get married. I refused to get married for papers, and fell in love with someone on student visa. He didn't want to get married for paper either,  so we were both "stuck".  ( We had to  either leave to a poor country with no family left there, or stay here out of status.  It was not easy by any means feeling like the garbage of society for so many years and constantly living in fear.  I am not saying that just to gain anyone's sympathy, it was the consequences of our choice, but it was a rough consequence. My husband did attend the school he was supposed to for over 6 years, we payed for our own education,  run a very successful business, payed a lot of taxes, never took a dime from the state, created two jobs at our business. My whole family (sisters and parents ) are USC, his family are all USC. We were too old to come with them.  I am so grateful that the company he has been working for sponsored him and there was a way within the law to get our LPR status, and this law was our way, we had our interview 7 days before it went into effect. I will forever be grateful for this privilege and will do my best to contribute to this great country. 

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5 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

I for one am glad this new regulation  is coming in, it’s been a slap in the face for those of us who do everything properly that so many people have just abused the old system with no consequence. 

Couldn't agree more. Too much abuse from those gaming the system! 

 

Funny how those abusing realize so when nearing a visa, etc decision. For example, previously having a child while on a B2 paid with taxpayer assistance, and suddenly offering to pay those expenses if it looks like a visa is in jeopardy.. comes to mind. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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You chose to break the law, you’re extremely lucky the existing legislation was lenient enough to let you get away without consequences. Everyone has a reason that they use to justify what they’ve done.  If you “lived in fear”, that was your choice to stay illegally and not wait till your USC family could legally petition you, plenty of people do legally wait the 12-15 years for F3 or F4 visas. Plenty of us come from poor countries, if that was still all you needed to stay in the US there’d be a lot more people here. Good luck to you now that you’re legal.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Vietnam
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On 6/7/2018 at 4:05 PM, SusieQQQ said:

 

I saw recently someone (different forum) has been here 5 years overstaying on a J visa but because he was admitted D/S has not started accruing unlawful presence yet! Even though he's clearly in violation of a bunch of things.  Totally ridiculous !!!

Yeah, it's so unfair for people like me working and studying our a** off just to stay in-status. While others...

I think the new policy makes a lot of sense. If you come here and go out of status, you're not a good citizen. Really. I don't mean to judge, but look, it's clearly breaking the law. Being on F/J visa means you have to be a student.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Several noncontributory/bickering posts have been removed.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: Other Country: Romania
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6 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

You chose to break the law, you’re extremely lucky the existing legislation was lenient enough to let you get away without consequences. Everyone has a reason that they use to justify what they’ve done.  If you “lived in fear”, that was your choice to stay illegally and not wait till your USC family could legally petition you, plenty of people do legally wait the 12-15 years for F3 or F4 visas. Plenty of us come from poor countries, if that was still all you needed to stay in the US there’d be a lot more people here. Good luck to you now that you’re legal.

yes, it was my choice, and I had to deal with that for a long time, however you never know how it is to walk in someone else's shoes.   Things are not always as black and white as they seek.. I would definitely  do things  differently if I could go back, but I can't.... anyhow it is what it is.  My point was that the existing law benefited our family, and that I was saddened by the proposed changes. I understand the other point of view though. Best wishes to you too. 

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Yes we get it, you’re like a latter-day Jean Valjean.

By the way - the next time you hear of someone from you or your husband’s country who gets refused a genuine visa application because they can’t overcome the presumption of immigrant intent - you can thank yourselves for contributing to the refusal. These decisions are partly based on how many people of a particular nationality overstay their visas. Just in case you think no one was harmed by your actions. 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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~~Related threads merged.~~

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Met Playing Everquest in 2005
Engaged 9-15-2006
K-1 & 4 K-2'S
Filed 05-09-07
Interview 03-12-08
Visa received 04-21-08
Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
Filed 10-17-10
Cards Received02-22-11
Citizenship
Filed 10-17-11
Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

Citizenship for older 2 boys

Filed 03/08/2014

NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

Biometrics 04/15/14

Interview 05/29/14

In line for Oath 06/20/14

Oath 09/19/2014 We are all done! All USC no more USCIS

 

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