Vegetarians, beware of chocolate!

[Oath 0]

yanno what pisses me off? Just because I'm not a veggie does not mean I'm down for eating animal intestine ####### in my choccie.

Where's my apology? LOL

Sorry

[homesick_american 1]

yanno what pisses me off? Just because I'm not a veggie does not mean I'm down for eating animal intestine ####### in my choccie.

Where's my apology? LOL

WORD.

[mawilson 2,133]

yanno what pisses me off? Just because I'm not a veggie does not mean I'm down for eating animal intestine ####### in my choccie.

What does the "secret ingredient" do? And why does it matter to a veggie

if it's extracted from plants, cow intestines or monkey brains? It's not like

it's an actual meat product, just a tiny amount of some preservative.

Taking vegetarianism a bit too far, aren't we?

[Dr_LHA 3]

yanno what pisses me off? Just because I'm not a veggie does not mean I'm down for eating animal intestine ####### in my choccie.

What does the "secret ingredient" do? And why does it matter to a veggie

if it's extracted from plants, cow intestines or monkey brains?

Because vegetarians are against the use of products derived from slaughtered animals in food, no matter how small or insignificant. Of course there are degrees of how much vegetarians are willing to scrutise, and each one will draw the line as they see fit.

However I certainly don't think being concerned about using rennet in chocolate is "taking vegetarianism too far".

Edited May 21, 2007 by Dr_LHA

[mawilson 2,133]

Never mind, I looked it up.

Rennet

"The chief use of rennet is in the making of cheese, junket, and chocolate bars.

[ ... ]

Natural rennet is produced in the inner mucosa of the fourth stomach chamber

(the abomasum) of young ruminants.

[ ... ]

Because of the limited availability of proper stomachs for rennet production,

cheesemakers have always looked for other ways to coagulate the milk. Artificial

coagulants are a useful alternative, especially for cheap or lower-quality cheeses.

[ ... ]

Many plants have coagulating properties.

[ ... ]

Worldwide there is also no industrial production for vegetable rennet. Commercial

so-called vegetable rennets usually contain rennet from the mold Mucor miehei -

see microbial rennet below.

[ ... ]

The flavour and taste of cheeses produced with microbial rennets tend towards some

bitterness, especially if longer maturation is wanted."

[mawilson 2,133]

However I certainly don't think being concerned about using rennet in chocolate is "taking vegetarianism too far".

What about cheese? Apparently, rennet is used by many (most? all?) cheese makers.

[Dr_LHA 3]

However I certainly don't think being concerned about using rennet in chocolate is "taking vegetarianism too far".

What about cheese? Apparently, rennet is used by many (most? all?) cheese makers.

In the UK at least, most supermarkets sell Vegetarian Cheese.

[mawilson 2,133]

However I certainly don't think being concerned about using rennet in chocolate is "taking vegetarianism too far".

What about cheese? Apparently, rennet is used by many (most? all?) cheese makers.

In the UK at least, most supermarkets sell Vegetarian Cheese.

Yeah but isn't it #######?

[Leney 0]

Rennet comes from a cows stomach, milk comes from a cows teat...I dunno einy mieny miney mo! I wonder how milk chocolate is made Pick and chose your method of animal exploitation. I wonder how many veggies have leather car seats.

[Dr_LHA 3]

Yeah but isn't it #######?

I think you're getting Vegetarian cheese mixed up with Vegan Cheese (which isn't cheese). Use of non-animal rennet in cheese does little to change the flavour. Most American cheeses BTW are vegetarian as it turns out.

Rennet comes from a cows stomach, milk comes from a cows teat...I dunno einy mieny miney mo!

The difference being clearly that you don't kill the cow to extract the milk!

[mawilson 2,133]

The difference being clearly that you don't kill the cow to extract the milk!

I imagine they don't kill cows just to extract rennet from their stomachs either.

If they didn't use the stomachs for rennet production, they'd just go to waste.

[homesick_american 1]

Rennet comes from a cows stomach, milk comes from a cows teat...I dunno einy mieny miney mo! I wonder how milk chocolate is made Pick and chose your method of animal exploitation. I wonder how many veggies have leather car seats.

You don't kill a cow to get its milk. I'm not even a vegetarian and I don't wear leather or have leather furniture. I don't like wearing or sitting on dead animal skins.

[Dr_LHA 3]

I imagine they don't kill cows just to extract rennet from their stomachs either.

If they didn't use the stomachs for rennet production, they'd just go to waste.

Vegetarians don't generally make exceptions for animal by products. It obviously depends on the person though. Some vegetarians I know will eat regular cheese, some don't. Just like I'm sure some would have continued to eat Mars bars even if they put animal rennet in them. That said some people call themselves Vegetarian and eat Chicken and Fish!

Edited May 21, 2007 by Dr_LHA

[Leney 0]

No, you don't kill a cow for milk, however they are kept in sometimes deplorable conditions, alive until they are no longer useful, they they are slaughtered and eaten. Six of one, half a dozen of the other

[homesick_american 1]

No, you don't kill a cow for milk, however they are kept in sometimes deplorable conditions, alive until they are no longer useful, they they are slaughtered and eaten. Six of one, half a dozen of the other

And you think I'm OK with this? We buy locally-reared meat, free-range eggs, etc. We're not against eating animals, but I don't want animal products in everything I eat. I don't want to wear leather or fur. I don't like animals suffering. Do you think that because I eat meat, I somehow condone this sort of thing?