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Does my wife need to renounce her Canadian Citizenship to become a US citizen?

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2 minutes ago, NikLR said:

many many many many people disagree with you. :)

But doesnt change the law! Does it? 

 

I myself dont like it but cant ignore the facts! I just repeated what the law says and i dont endorse it or even like it! Whoever doesnt agree, is free to try his/her options.

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Just now, Dave&Kal said:

But doesnt change the law! Does it? 

 

I myself dont like it but cant ignore the facts! I just repeated what the law says and i dont endorse it or even like it! Whoever doesnt agree, is free to try his/her options.

no what I'm saying is the that law itself disagrees with you.  That none of those people have lost their US citizenship.  They had no intentions of giving up their natural born citizenship and did not do any of the actual process to do so.  

Your interpretation, while seemingly sound, isn't accurate. But I get the feeling I won't change your mind, so I won't bother trying. But I wish you all the best in life! :D Truly.  

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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On 8/15/2018 at 11:58 AM, bobbyapache said:

How about taxes?  US citizen needs to file/pay taxes no matter where the money is earned.  How about Canada?

Us is the only country ( as far as i know) requesting the citizens to pay taxes even if they dont live in the us ( there is a double taxation agreement between us and canada and few other countries to prevent being taxed twice though).  Why does Canda or other countries dont do the same? Well they simply dont have that much power to inforce it in many countries! As a us citizen you willmhave lots of difficulties doing banking and opening avcounts outside world, since a lot of banks are not willing to do the extral labour for irs.

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1 minute ago, NikLR said:

no what I'm saying is the that law itself disagrees with you.  That none of those people have lost their US citizenship.  They had no intentions of giving up their natural born citizenship and did not do any of the actual process to do so.  

Your interpretation, while seemingly sound, isn't accurate. But I get the feeling I won't change your mind, so I won't bother trying. But I wish you all the best in life! :D Truly.  

Like it says and i repeated clearly it affects if you choose to immigrate INTENTIONALLY and has nothing to do with the citizenship you acuire after marriage. And this about after becoming a us citizen ( nothing happens to the citizenships you had before becoming a us itizen, you wont lose them and you wont lose us citizenship )  i have 4 citizenship myself and being a us citizen will be the fifth!

2 minutes ago, gabarooch86 said:

This is getting off topic here. 

 

My wife already is a Canadian Citizen, and is looking to become a naturalized US Citizen. 

 

She is not looking to acquire more after that. 

Does not affect her

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2 minutes ago, gabarooch86 said:

This is getting off topic here. 

 

My wife already is a Canadian Citizen, and is looking to become a naturalized US Citizen. 

 

She is not looking to acquire more after that. 

Sorry!! :)

 

No she doesn't renounce her Canadian citizenship and nor does she have to.

 

Personally there are several reasons why I have yet to apply for US citizenship.  Trump and the oath being the major two.  I'm slowly getting my mind around the oath.  I refuse to become a US citizen though while Trump would be the one to "welcome" me to becoming a US citizen.  🤮 Sorry I just can't. LMAO

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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33 minutes ago, AshMarty said:

I posted this the other day in this forum. US law does not require a person to choose one nationality

That is true when acuiring US citizenship. But after that, as a US citizen if you immigrate to another  country and acuire new citizenship (  not talking about citizenships you had before becoming a us citizen) you will lose US citizenship and only exception is if you acquired this new citizenship as a result of getting married to someone from a different country/citizenship. That is exactly what the law ( the one i posted before) specifically clarifies.

 

Most people are just not paying enough attention and confusing it as losing their older citizenship , which is incorrect. No matter what or how many citizenships you have before becoming a US citizen, they all will remain intact when you acuire US citizenship ( as far as US is concerned) . 

 

Anyway, i repated as clearly as i could, i am done repeating myself. If anybody doesnt like it, well i didnt write the law, and if you find my interpretation incorrect, then please do as you wish and later let us know what happened!  😊

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Dave&Kal said:

That is true when acuiring US citizenship. But after that, as a US citizen if you immigrate to another  country and acuire new citizenship (  not talking about citizenships you had before becoming a us citizen) you will lose US citizenship and only exception is if you acquired this new citizenship as a result of getting married to someone from a different country/citizenship. That is exactly what the law ( the one i posted before) specifically clarifies.

 

Most people are just not paying enough attention and confusing it as losing their older citizenship , which is incorrect. No matter what or how many citizenships you have before becoming a US citizen, they all will remain intact when you acuire US citizenship ( as far as US is concerned) . 

 

Anyway, i repated as clearly as i could, i am done repeating myself. If anybody doesnt like it, well i didnt write the law, and if you find my interpretation incorrect, then please do as you wish and later let us know what happened!  😊

 

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html

 

Dual Nationality

 

Section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states that “the term ‘national of the United States’ means (A) a citizen of the United States, or (B) a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States.” Therefore, U.S. citizens are also U.S. nationals. Non-citizen nationality status refers only individuals who were born either in American Samoa or on Swains Island to parents who are not citizens of the United States. The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a national of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own nationality laws based on its own policy. Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. national parents may be both a U.S. national and a national of the country of birth. Or, an individual having one nationality at birth may naturalize at a later date in another country and become a dual national. 

 

U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship. However, persons who acquire a foreign nationality after age 18 by applying for it may relinquish their U.S. nationality if they wish to do so. In order to relinquish U.S. nationality by virtue of naturalization as a citizen of a foreign state, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Intent may be shown by the person’s statements and conduct.

 

Edit: My apologies, I see where after reading this several time that this can interpreted in the second half of the paragraph but I have never heard of anyone having to give up their US citizenship. 

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You must intend to relinquish US citizenship.  It's not just taken away because you become a national of another country.  

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1 hour ago, NikLR said:

Sorry!! :)

 

No she doesn't renounce her Canadian citizenship and nor does she have to.

 

Personally there are several reasons why I have yet to apply for US citizenship.  Trump and the oath being the major two.  I'm slowly getting my mind around the oath.  I refuse to become a US citizen though while Trump would be the one to "welcome" me to becoming a US citizen.  🤮 Sorry I just can't. LMAO

It's your right to chose to be a US citizen or not. But when Trump is no longer the President and if you decide to become a US citizen, and down the road another President you don't like (despise if that's a better word) get elected are you going to renounce your US citizenship?

 

Presidents come and go, so having the right to vote the next one is important. A major reason why Trump got elected as President was people not voting on the other side. Just saying.

 

 

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Just now, Umka36 said:

It's your right to chose to be a US citizen or not. But when Trump is no longer the President and if you decide to become a US citizen, and down the road another President you don't like (despise if that's a better word) get elected are you going to renounce your US citizenship?

 

Presidents come and go, so having the right to vote the next one is important. A major reason why Trump got elected as President was people not voting on the other side. Just saying.

 

 

I feel like you've asked me this before and again, my personal choice is my personal choice.  Everyone can make their own.  This is not the thread to discuss my personal choices and I apologize to the OP for going off topic. 

 

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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