Does my wife need to renounce her Canadian Citizenship to become a US citizen?

[bobbyapache 0]

How about taxes?  US citizen needs to file/pay taxes no matter where the money is earned.  How about Canada?

Edited August 15, 2018 by bobbyapache

[merc0230 28]

1 minute ago, gabarooch86 said:

Because I'm unfamiliar with the Naturalization process. The answer is quite clear, just wanted to know that if she needed to renounce it to become a citizen. I know you are allowed dual citizenship. 

Ah ok. The answer is still no, but mushroomspore answered it more eloquently. 

[acidrain 325]

2 hours ago, bobbyapache said:

How about taxes?  US citizen needs to file/pay taxes no matter where the money is earned.  How about Canada?

In most cases if you are living outside of Canada you don't need to file taxes.

 

However some investments require a Canadian to continue to file income tax such as if you own property and are renting it out. You also have to pay capital gains if you decide to sell the property if you are a non resident. So it really depends.

[ITMFA 241]

you can even be a triple citizen  (did some research because I'm already a dual citizen of Canada and the U.K.) Always depends on the countries involved, but you're fine! 

[Dave&Kal 26]

somebody please correct me if i am wrong. To the best of my knowledge, regardless of what or how many citizenships you have, you can become a citizen of the US without losing them, but AFTER becoming a US citizen, if you choose to immigrate to a different country then you lose your US citizenship!  For example, a canadian person immigrating to the US, will be Canadian and US citizen eventually, but a US citizen immigrating to Canada, He/she will lose US citizenship if chooses to become Canadian ( because US considers getting a new citizenship as breaking your oath of allegiance and leaving it! )

[NikLR 13,231]

11 hours ago, Dave&Kal said:

somebody please correct me if i am wrong. To the best of my knowledge, regardless of what or how many citizenships you have, you can become a citizen of the US without losing them, but AFTER becoming a US citizen, if you choose to immigrate to a different country then you lose your US citizenship!  For example, a canadian person immigrating to the US, will be Canadian and US citizen eventually, but a US citizen immigrating to Canada, He/she will lose US citizenship if chooses to become Canadian ( because US considers getting a new citizenship as breaking your oath of allegiance and leaving it! )

Not unless you were intending to give up your US citizenship, which most are not. 

[Dave&Kal 26]

11 hours ago, NikLR said:

Not unless you were intending to give up your US citizenship, which most are not. 

You might lose your U.S. citizenship in specific cases, including if you:

• Intentionally acquire citizenship in a foreign country except if you acquire it through marriage to a foreign national; you may become a dual national instead (meaning being dual citizen after getting it through marriage only).         

SOURCE: https://www.usa.gov/renounce-lose-citizenship

 

Edited August 21, 2018 by Dave&Kal

[NikLR 13,231]

59 minutes ago, Dave&Kal said:

You might lose your U.S. citizenship in specific cases, including if you:

• Intentionally acquire citizenship in a foreign country except if you acquire it through marriage to a foreign national; you may become a dual national instead (meaning being dual citizen after getting it through marriage only).         

SOURCE: https://www.usa.gov/renounce-lose-citizenship

 

Chances that someone is acquiring citizenship because they moved to another country due to a spouse is high.  I have personally yet to meet an American that moved to Canada without being married first.  

 

Many people give up their US citizenship when moving to other countries if they're making over the threshold to pay taxes in the USA.  

Edited August 21, 2018 by NikLR

[Dave&Kal 26]

when you get married, you are not immigrating! And the citizenship comes with it as a result and it has nothing to do with your choice of acquiring a new citizenship. ( of course i am NOT talking about the marriage of convenience, which if proven, the person will be stripped from all his permanent residence or citizenship status) . Like i said before, the US citizenship is almost the last stop on immigration route!  So basically that is why you see most people are  X-American citizens and  few are American-X citizens because as a US citizen ( if you are not married to someone from a different country) you have no way of keeping your US citizenship and acquiring the new one!  

 

So i guess the best advice would be to do all your immigration games before becoming a US citizen , The day before your Oath ceremony would be your last chance of bachelor party! Now you know what comes later! :-)

[Ontarkie 14,378]

9 hours ago, Dave&Kal said:

when you get married, you are not immigrating! And the citizenship comes with it as a result and it has nothing to do with your choice of acquiring a new citizenship. ( of course i am NOT talking about the marriage of convenience, which if proven, the person will be stripped from all his permanent residence or citizenship status) . Like i said before, the US citizenship is almost the last stop on immigration route!  So basically that is why you see most people are  X-American citizens and  few are American-X citizens because as a US citizen ( if you are not married to someone from a different country) you have no way of keeping your US citizenship and acquiring the new one!  

 

So i guess the best advice would be to do all your immigration games before becoming a US citizen , The day before your Oath ceremony would be your last chance of bachelor party! Now you know what comes later! 🙂

Wrong. They only lose it if they have the intentions of relinquishing it. 

 

Section 349 of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. nationals are subject to loss of nationality if they perform certain specifiedacts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Briefly stated, these acts include:

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality.html

 

The key point here is if they do so with the intentions of giving it up. Plus recently the US actually made it harder to give up USC because so many were doing it to get out of paying taxes after they moved.

[Dave&Kal 26]

Just now, Ontarkie said:

Wrong. They only lose it if they have the intentions of relinquishing it. 

 

Section 349 of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. nationals are subject to loss of nationality if they perform certain specifiedacts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Briefly stated, these acts include:

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality.html

 

The key point here is if they do so with the intentions of giving it up. Plus recently the US actually made it harder to give up USC because so many were doing it to get out of paying taxes after they moved.

Read the source i posted earlier.

[Ontarkie 14,378]

2 minutes ago, Dave&Kal said:

Read the source i posted earlier.

I did it also shows it in the first sentence voluntary renounce. 

 

Then you also have this 

In sum, an individual who has performed a potentially expatriating act under INA Section 349(a)(1) through (4) will lose U.S. nationality  only by credibly affirming under oath in writing before a U.S. consular officer that the act was performed voluntarily with an intent to relinquish U.S. nationality. The burden of proof rests upon the party claiming loss and by preponderance of the evidence. A U.S. national also has the option to formally renounce U.S. nationality abroad in accordance with INA Section 349 (a) (5).

Edited August 21, 2018 by Ontarkie

[Dave&Kal 26]

When you INTENTIONALLY acuire a new cituzenship ( after becoming a us citizen) , you will lose US citizenship! That is what it says! And what i understand! But again, anybody wishes to take chances, be my guest! 🙂

[NikLR 13,231]

15 hours ago, Dave&Kal said:

When you INTENTIONALLY acuire a new cituzenship ( after becoming a us citizen) , you will lose US citizenship! That is what it says! And what i understand! But again, anybody wishes to take chances, be my guest! 🙂

many many many many people disagree with you.   

 

My husband understands it the same as you do and no amount of information from me convinces him otherwise.  So I rest my case.

[AshMarty 360]

On 8/21/2018 at 7:25 AM, Dave&Kal said:

You might lose your U.S. citizenship in specific cases, including if you:

• Intentionally acquire citizenship in a foreign country except if you acquire it through marriage to a foreign national; you may become a dual national instead (meaning being dual citizen after getting it through marriage only).         

SOURCE: https://www.usa.gov/renounce-lose-citizenship

 

 

16 hours ago, Ontarkie said:

Wrong. They only lose it if they have the intentions of relinquishing it. 

 

Section 349 of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. nationals are subject to loss of nationality if they perform certain specifiedacts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Briefly stated, these acts include:

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality.html

 

The key point here is if they do so with the intentions of giving it up. Plus recently the US actually made it harder to give up USC because so many were doing it to get out of paying taxes after they moved.

 

I posted this the other day in this forum. US law does not require a person to choose one nationality. 

 

"U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to his or her U.S. citizenship." 

Edited August 22, 2018 by AshMarty