CNN star Chris Cuomo accused of defending Antifa in monologue

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10 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

I asked in terms of methodology not rhetoric

still no. antifa lets everyone know they want to and intend to punch nazis. their purpose is to aggressively push back against facists/racists. they wear masks because they intend to physically assault racists/facists and they don't want to go to jail.

kkk/whitesupremacists/neo nazis try to disguise their intentions and beliefs, for example 'unite the right' was held under the farce of 'white civil rights' and they actively lie to down play their intention to establish a white ethnostate and their belief that whites have to curtail minority population growth in order to maintain their supremacy.

so you may not agree with members of antifa choosing to break the law as concerns punching nazis. i get that. but they're not marching or demanding the lawful right to do so, or going around saying they'd never use violence and practicing the opposite.

Edited August 15, 2018 by smilesammich

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3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  If the extreme right and the KKK faded away, Antifa would too. In a vacuum, I doubt you would see an Antifa "unite the left" rally. We have seen such rallies from the extreme right. The extreme right has stated explicit goals centered around nationalism, decreasing immigration, and creating a white monoculture. Antifa has stated explicit goals of opposing the extreme right by whatever methods necessary. Thus, different actions and intents.

you said it much better than i did, exactly this.

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9 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  If the extreme right and the KKK faded away, Antifa would too. In a vacuum, I doubt you would see an Antifa "unite the left" rally. We have seen such rallies from the extreme right. The extreme right has stated explicit goals centered around nationalism, decreasing immigration, and creating a white monoculture. Antifa has stated explicit goals of opposing the extreme right by whatever methods necessary. Thus, different actions and intents.

I appreciate your opinion, I don't always agree with  you but always you make a clear and intelligent  point, I feel Antifa is becoming that which it purports to hate and is devolving into a radical movement itself, however they choose to state their goals they Garner a lot of negative press in their public displays

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“This past weekend, antifa protesters took to the streets of Charlottesville and Washington and spent most of their time hurling epithets at police and the media. D’Souza says antifa protesters might claim to be opposing fascism, but they clearly embody what they say they hate.

 

“They’re posing as anti-fascists. Of course they dress like fascists. They act like fascists. They have the same intolerance as fascism. And let’s notice that their target isn’t fascists. When you’re targeting cops and Republicans and patriots and Christians, you’re actually not targeting fascists but anti-fascists.

 

“So we have an amazing situation in which the fascists – antifa – are pretending to be anti-fascists and targeting anti-fascists, whom they claim are fascists,” D’Souza in an interview with Radio America.

So why does the far left have a compulsion towards violence?

 

“Their view is that since Trump is like Hitler circa 1933, they are fully justified in using, as they say, any means necessary to eject him, including illegal means, including violence,” said D’Souza, who also asserts that fascism is a far left ideology that academic liberals twisted to blur the coziness between the American Democrats and fascist leaders before World War II.“

 

https://www.wnd.com/2018/08/dsouza-antifa-the-real-brownshirts/

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12 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

“This past weekend, antifa protesters took to the streets of Charlottesville and Washington and spent most of their time hurling epithets at police and the media. D’Souza says antifa protesters might claim to be opposing fascism, but they clearly embody what they say they hate.

 

“They’re posing as anti-fascists. Of course they dress like fascists. They act like fascists. They have the same intolerance as fascism. And let’s notice that their target isn’t fascists. When you’re targeting cops and Republicans and patriots and Christians, you’re actually not targeting fascists but anti-fascists.

 

“So we have an amazing situation in which the fascists – antifa – are pretending to be anti-fascists and targeting anti-fascists, whom they claim are fascists,” D’Souza in an interview with Radio America.

So why does the far left have a compulsion towards violence?

 

“Their view is that since Trump is like Hitler circa 1933, they are fully justified in using, as they say, any means necessary to eject him, including illegal means, including violence,” said D’Souza, who also asserts that fascism is a far left ideology that academic liberals twisted to blur the coziness between the American Democrats and fascist leaders before World War II.“

 

https://www.wnd.com/2018/08/dsouza-antifa-the-real-brownshirts/

d'souza is in rare form, very objective. 😂

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15 hours ago, smilesammich said:

still no. antifa lets everyone know they want to and intend to punch nazis. their purpose is to aggressively push back against facists/racists. they wear masks because they intend to physically assault racists/facists and they don't want to go to jail.

kkk/whitesupremacists/neo nazis try to disguise their intentions and beliefs, for example 'unite the right' was held under the farce of 'white civil rights' and they actively lie to down play their intention to establish a white ethnostate and their belief that whites have to curtail minority population growth in order to maintain their supremacy.

so you may not agree with members of antifa choosing to break the law as concerns punching nazis. i get that. but they're not marching or demanding the lawful right to do so, or going around saying they'd never use violence and practicing the opposite.

If Antifa is so right and are standing up for good cause but are doing it in an illegal manner (assault and battery), why not take their punishment for it instead of hiding behind some mask? 

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12 hours ago, smilesammich said:

d'souza is in rare form, very objective. 😂

Very right.  Objectivity comes from the outside, and last I heard D'Souza is not a member of the fascist group Antifa.

Edited August 16, 2018 by Bill & Katya

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3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

If Antifa is so right and are standing up for good cause but are doing it in an illegal manner (assault and battery), why not take their punishment for it instead of hiding behind some mask? 

many of them do get arrested. in my opinion, punching nazis will always be the right thing to do. sorry, not sorry.

 

3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Very right.  Objectivity comes from the outside, and last I heard D'Souza is not a member of the fascist group Antifa.

d'souza loves his savior trump. lol

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Just now, smilesammich said:

many of them do get arrested. in my opinion, punching nazis will always be the right thing to do. sorry, not sorry.

 

d'souza loves his savior trump. lol

I think I missed D'Souza ever labeling Trump the second coming of Jesus Christ, can you reference it.

 

You feelings relative to punching folks that disagree is well known, I am just saying there are consequences to those actions that should be faced without trying to hide.

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

I think I missed D'Souza ever labeling Trump the second coming of Jesus Christ, can you reference it.

 

You feelings relative to punching folks that disagree is well known, I am just saying there are consequences to those actions that should be faced without trying to hide.

and i missed ever bringing up jesus.

 

it's sad to me that this 'val thinks its okay to punch whoever disagrees with her' nonsense keeps getting repeated. i've only talked about punching nazis. you know, the group who has a goal to kill off large swaths of humans? i would say i wonder why this twist of my words keeps occurring, but i know exactly why. 

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

and i missed ever bringing up jesus.

 

it's sad to me that this 'val thinks its okay to punch whoever disagrees with her' nonsense keeps getting repeated. i've only talked about punching nazis. you know, the group who has a goal to kill off large swaths of humans? i would say i wonder why this twist of my words keeps occurring, but i know exactly why. 

Jesus is commonly considered to be synonymous with the term Savior.  As to the rest, we have no idea that you would stop with Nazis, to me, when someone promotes a violent position on anything, they should be treated cautiously. 

 

Btw, socialist/communists also killed large swaths of humans.

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Jesus is commonly considered to be synonymous with the term Savior.  As to the rest, we have no idea that you would stop with Nazis, to me, when someone promotes a violent position on anything, they should be treated cautiously. 

 

Btw, socialist/communists also killed large swaths of humans.

but not trump, right? trump has called for violence at his rallies, many many times. you can trust him to only instruct his followers to attack 'bad guys'. please. pitiful.

 

so have capitalists. what is your point?

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7 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

but not trump, right? trump has called for violence at his rallies, many many times. you can trust him to only instruct his followers to attack 'bad guys'. please. pitiful.

 

so have capitalists. what is your point?

Don't remember the last capitalist purge, source?  When did Trump tell anyone to be violent at a rally?  Sure, he tells people the media cannot be trusted (what else is new), but did he tell anyone to assault Jim Acosta?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Don't remember the last capitalist purge, source?  When did Trump tell anyone to be violent at a rally?  Sure, he tells people the media cannot be trusted (what else is new), but did he tell anyone to assault Jim Acosta?

 

 

i'm sure you've heard of war. droning. etc..

A look back at Trump comments perceived by some as encouraging violence

Assaults Increased When Cities Hosted Trump Rallies, Study Finds

Trump’s History of Encouraging Violence

Edited August 16, 2018 by smilesammich

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16 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i'm sure you've heard of war. droning. etc..

A look back at Trump comments perceived by some as encouraging violence

Sure, but are you suggesting all wars are fought for capitalism?  I remember quite a fuel being started by fascists and socialist/communists.