Interesting story about a US couple bringing adopted child to America

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These days, it's generally a safe bet. 

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13 hours ago, cyclone27 said:

Begs the question how did they get a tourist visa for a baby not their own?

Good question about the tourist visa. But did the adoption not make it their own? 

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19 hours ago, mushroomspore said:

 

The article says that the bio-mom is developmentally disabled and also forced into sex work and willingly gave up her child. No idea if that is 100% true or whatever but if it is, then bio-mom made the right decision, in my opinion.

 

I saw this story on other social media and people reacted exactly as how I expected. Many people did not realize that the adoptive parents used a tourist visa to immigrate the child (they probably didn't even read the article and simply reacted to the headline) and as we all know on this forum, that is an erroneous and fraudulent use of that visa. The other thing too is that it was a domestic adoption in Peru, not an international one. Personally I hope it works out for them but people on social media got mad at me when I pointed these legal mistakes the parents had made and said the government should just let the child in and let her become a US citizen. There's a process for that for adopted foreign children and the adoptive parents in this case didn't follow it. This case is still ongoing so we'll just see what happens.

It's fine to do a domestic adoption abroad, as long as following the adoption becoming final, the parents wait for 2 years while they are raising their adopted child. At that point they can simply file an I-130 for the child, the same they would for a biological child. Their mistake was not waiting out the 2 year period before trying to immigrate their child.

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17 hours ago, cyclone27 said:

Begs the question how did they get a tourist visa for a baby not their own?

It is their own baby. They legally adopted her.

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I have known a guy who I think is in his 60s, was adopted from Canada as a baby/young child, has lived his whole life here in the US, I think maybe even served in the military. When he was applying for Social Security he found out he wasn't a US citizen. His parents screwed up/never started/never finished the paperwork. I'm not sure if he managed to sort it out. IMHO it is unfair to these kids to be in limbo. Their parents' fault, though, 100%.

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11 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

It is their own baby. They legally adopted her.

I’m pretty sure they didn’t disclose the baby was adopted because if they had I’d wager the tourist visa would have been denied.

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6 minutes ago, cyclone27 said:

I’m pretty sure they didn’t disclose the baby was adopted because if they had I’d wager the tourist visa would have been denied.

It was denied several times before being approved.  So pretty sure they did. 

Edited August 15, 2018 by NikLR
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Pretty strange it was obvious what they were up to and smell of desperation if they applied so many times.

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35 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

I have known a guy who I think is in his 60s, was adopted from Canada as a baby/young child, has lived his whole life here in the US, I think maybe even served in the military. When he was applying for Social Security he found out he wasn't a US citizen. His parents screwed up/never started/never finished the paperwork. I'm not sure if he managed to sort it out. IMHO it is unfair to these kids to be in limbo. Their parents' fault, though, 100%.

I have a close friend who was adopted from South Korea when she was 4 months old.

 

She went to change her name after marriage and she found out the Social Security had never properly filed her Naturalization Certificate and had her as a legal permanent resident not a citizen. She had to spend hundreds of dollars to fix the departments error when she was 30 years old.  

 

We had a good laugh after the fact because all through college she would receive these notices about how she didn't qualify for financial aide and scholarships because she wasn't a citizen of the US, which at that point she would have to pull out her naturalization certificate, to prove she was. It all made so much sense in the end.. haha.  

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29 minutes ago, NikLR said:

It was denied several times before being approved.  So pretty sure they did. 

I saw that the other day as well and was thinking "Why the hell were they able to get a tourist visa at all because it does reek of desperation". 

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Update: It looks like they reopened the case for the girl. I really hope this doesn't give other people the motivation to try the same method as these parents did to skip the process.

 

https://kdvr.com/2018/08/14/immigration-case-reopened-as-aurora-family-fights-to-keep-adopted-4-year-old-from-being-deported/

 

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AURORA, Colo. — An Aurora family who adopted a girl from Peru will see her immigration case reopened as they fight to keep the 4-year-old from being deported.

Angela Becerra was denied U.S. citizenship even though both of her parents are American citizens.

Her parents adopted her when she was an infant while they were living in Peru. Her adoption is legal.

The United States Customs and Immigration Services had previously denied her case due in part to The Hague Convention, an international treaty aimed at saving children from being abducted and taken across borders.

But Tuesday, the agency agreed to reopen the case.

Angela is in the United States on a tourist visa. It expires on Aug. 31. After that, she will legally be eligible for deportation.

Her mother, Amy Becerra, tells FOX31 and Channel 2 that she can’t imagine the USCIS denying her daughter twice.

U.S. Rep. Mike Coffman, R-Aurora, said that he is working closely with the Becerra family to try to find a solution to their situation.

“I personally met with Mrs. Becerra on Friday afternoon regarding her case, and since then my office has been focused in getting answers,” Coffman said in a statement.

 

 

 

Edited August 15, 2018 by NuestraUnion

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Cousins adopted twins from Guatemala and friends adopted a girl from Taiwan. In talking about their adoptions they repeatedly made the point that the 2 year rule was ironclad. They waited it out and were happy once they were allowed to return to the US with their children.

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23 hours ago, NuestraUnion said:

“It’s inconceivable that a child of two citizen parents would have to live out their life as an undocumented alien in this country,” Amy Becerra said.

NOTE: Quote is from the article, not the OP.

 

Why is that inconceivable? They tried to bypass the rules. It sounds like they had legal guidance as well...which begs the question as to what they were told is the process.

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3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

NOTE: Quote is from the article, not the OP.

 

Why is that inconceivable? They tried to bypass the rules. It sounds like they had legal guidance as well...which begs the question as to what they were told is the process.

I have no doubt in my mind that there was some sort of legal "advice" to just bring the child over on a tourist visa.

 

Another thing that stuck out to me from the article along the same line as you stated is the attitude of the parents, particular the mother being interviewed. She kept reiterating that they were US citizens, as if to imply that they should not half to go through the wait process.

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3 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

I have no doubt in my mind that there was some sort of legal "advice" to just bring the child over on a tourist visa.

 

Another thing that stuck out to me from the article along the same line as you stated is the attitude of the parents, particular the mother being interviewed. She kept reiterating that they were US citizens, as if to imply that they should not half to go through the wait process.

The sense of entitlement is strong in this one.