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[Muhammad&Mansory 117]

So an update about the / vs. or theory: 

 

I just talked to my lawyer about it and she freaked out out of excitement! 

 

She just checked all the cases she is working on: 4 cases had their / change into or in the recent days and the 4 received an email from the embassy lately asking to re-submit docs because their AP is over!  the rest of the cases she has still has 'or' and they are still in AP! 

 

SO HOOORAY and I hope to receive an email from the embassy soon  

[Ammer 2]

1 minute ago, Muhammad&Mansory said:

So an update about the / vs. or theory: 

 

I just talked to my lawyer about it and she freaked out out of excitement! 

 

She just checked all the cases she is working on: 4 cases had their / change into or in the recent days and the 4 received an email from the embassy lately asking to re-submit docs because their AP is over!  the rest of the cases she has still has 'or' and they are still in AP! 

 

SO HOOORAY and I hope to receive an email from the embassy soon  

Does the change from / to or have to coincide with an update? Because my fiancée's message changed from / to or but without an update. Any specifics on whether it has to be coupled with an actual change to the case last updated date or not?

[Bb2020 7]

40 minutes ago, salhasl said:

My sources are lawyers + people in facebook groups (first person)  + people who have personally interviewed. There are immediate CR1/IR1 visas, 3 month AP, 6 month AP, immediate DV, immediate Parent (including someone who interviewed last thursday and got visa today - IR5, parent of US citizen) all Iranians. We all know that there were 254 visas issued to Iranians in July. As compared to approx 30 in June, so the automated system the DOS proposed has indeed been implemented. Whats not yet clear, is what is the interview dates for these 250 visas.  

 

some analysis:

 

You will see that there have been 15 CR1 visas for Iran. If you had any more than a 6 month AP, its very unlikely you'd get a CR1. It takes atleast 3 months from marriage to NOA1, 8 months from NOA 1 to NOA2. 3 months from NOA2 to NVC compelte, and then 2-3 months to interview. So 1.5 yrs. Those are best case. There is every possibility these 15 had an AP less than 6 months - so 2019 interview OR didnt have an AP at all. 

 

The problem is that the numbers even before the ban are so small - literally we are talking between 25-40 IR1/CR1 a month. Even a few anomalies throw off the calculations. 

 

 

This is why i mentioned earlier your fatcs/ analysis/calculations... are speculations

what you are getting from this link: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics/immigrant-visa-statistics/monthly-immigrant-visa-issuances.html 

are what embassies report.

If embassy receives your document before 2 years they report cr1 being on ap for 3 years wont change that, they will still report cr1.

POI officer decides the category of the green card.

 

Once you are approved (for a spousal visa) you have 6 months to enter the states so lets say you get your petition approved in a year and 7 months and you enter the sates 2 years and 1 month into your marriage your visa category now is IR1 not CR1 but the embassy has reported cr1.

 So your analysis are misleading and incorrect.

[Nag & Matt 82]

7 minutes ago, Bb2020 said:

This is why i mentioned earlier your fatcs/ analysis/calculations... are speculations

what you are getting from this link: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics/immigrant-visa-statistics/monthly-immigrant-visa-issuances.html 

are what embassies report.

If embassy receives your document before 2 years they report cr1 being on ap for 3 years wont change that, they will still report cr1.

POI officer decides the category of the green card.

 

Once you are approved (for a spousal visa) you have 6 months to enter the states so lets say you get your petition approved in a year and 7 months and you enter the sates 2 years and 1 month into your marriage your visa category now is IR1 not CR1 but the embassy has reported cr1.

 So your analysis are misleading and incorrect.

Yes, I have read this too from multiple sources too. That the POE is the one to change your CR1 to IR1 if you show them your marriage certificate. But the embassy would approve for CR1 even if you were married for more than 2 years (assuming you applied for CR1). 

Edited September 10, 2019 by Nag & Matt

[salhasl 113]

16 minutes ago, Bb2020 said:

This is why i mentioned earlier your fatcs/ analysis/calculations... are speculations

what you are getting from this link: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics/immigrant-visa-statistics/monthly-immigrant-visa-issuances.html 

are what embassies report.

If embassy receives your document before 2 years they report cr1 being on ap for 3 years wont change that, they will still report cr1.

POI officer decides the category of the green card.

 

Once you are approved (for a spousal visa) you have 6 months to enter the states so lets say you get your petition approved in a year and 7 months and you enter the sates 2 years and 1 month into your marriage your visa category now is IR1 not CR1 but the embassy has reported cr1.

 So your analysis are misleading and incorrect.

Fair enough, I mentioned in my post that is analysis - unfortunately there is no way to know for sure

 

But the facts still hold. There are visas being issued weekly to people I know, lawyers know.

 

But here are some facts - this is just one example - there are many more.

 

 

Another

 

6 month AP

 

 

Edited September 10, 2019 by salhasl

[Bb2020 7]

4 minutes ago, salhasl said:

Fair enough, I mentioned in my post that is analysis - unfortunately there is no way to know for sure

 

But the facts still hold. There are visas being issued weekly to people I know, lawyers know.

 

But here are some facts - this is just one example - there are many more.

 

If you click on the link you provided us with https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics/immigrant-visa-statistics/monthly-immigrant-visa-issuances.html

This is what you see first 

Monthly Immigrant Visa Issuance Statistics

 

The reports below contain preliminary data which are subject to change. Any changes would not be statistically significant.

 

 

Salhasl this picture is from an instagram account of a lawyer/agent trying to get clients to hire her/him, not a valid source, It shows its fx1 (spouse of a permanent resident), it does not show the dates so again i don't believe it.

[salhasl 113]

Just now, Bb2020 said:

If you click on the link you provided us with https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics/immigrant-visa-statistics/monthly-immigrant-visa-issuances.html

This is what you see first 

Monthly Immigrant Visa Issuance Statistics

 

The reports below contain preliminary data which are subject to change. Any changes would not be statistically significant.

 

 

Salhasl this picture is from an instagram account of a lawyer/agent trying to get clients to hire her/him, not a valid source, It shows its fx1 (spouse of a permanent resident), it does not show the dates so again i don't believe it.

She's been quite honest with me in the past about her other clients. I was skeptical at first too, but she;s not the only one. There are other people too, not lawyers, but actual people who interviewed who for obvious reasons wont post their entire case receipts for everyone to see. 

 

But again, I doubt any amount of proof can put your skepticism to ease so I will leave it at that.

 

If any one else from travel ban countries has interviewed in the past month or so, please share your interview experience - I really want to hear from people who have actual on the ground experience - it would be very helpful for the rest of us who are about to interview

[Bb2020 7]

17 minutes ago, salhasl said:

Fair enough, I mentioned in my post that is analysis - unfortunately there is no way to know for sure

 

But the facts still hold. There are visas being issued weekly to people I know, lawyers know.

 

But here are some facts - this is just one example - there are many more.

 

 

Another

 

6 month AP

 

 

Sorry i didn't see the other source you mentioned, 

There timeline shows they were on AP for 6 months.

https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/profile.php?id=213985, 

 Also iv case number on a greencard determines when a case was created. 

[NJ515 73]

41 minutes ago, Muhammad&Mansory said:

So an update about the / vs. or theory: 

 

I just talked to my lawyer about it and she freaked out out of excitement! 

 

She just checked all the cases she is working on: 4 cases had their / change into or in the recent days and the 4 received an email from the embassy lately asking to re-submit docs because their AP is over!  the rest of the cases she has still has 'or' and they are still in AP! 

 

SO HOOORAY and I hope to receive an email from the embassy soon  

Woo ya man let's get it!!! We changed to "or" today also.

[salhasl 113]

Just now, NJ515 said:

Woo ya man let's get it!!! We changed to "or" today also.

Were you part of a lawsuit?

[NJ515 73]

Just now, salhasl said:

Were you part of a lawsuit?

Yes, so far out of the 9 in our lawsuit, 1 got a waiver already and I'm tracking that 5 others all changed to "or" on the same day. 

[salhasl 113]

1 minute ago, NJ515 said:

Yes, so far out of the 9 in our lawsuit, 1 got a waiver already and I'm tracking that 5 others all changed to "or" on the same day. 

Yep - sounds about right - you'll have your visa soon and most likely be celebrating your new years with your spouse :-) Congratulations!!

[NJ515 73]

2 minutes ago, salhasl said:

Yep - sounds about right - you'll have your visa soon and most likely be celebrating your new years with your spouse 🙂 Congratulations!!

I hope so.. this has been a long, expensive, and embarrassing experience. She is in real mental anguish over it... it's not safe to return to Syria, she isn't welcomed in USA, and while she isn't a refugee in Germany, there is rising anti-Syrian sentiment due to a variety of social and political factors, so I'm desperate for it to get issued for her. 

[salhasl 113]

I know this might be a stupid question, but do you guys think the embassy you interview at matters? I am in a group that shares information about abu dhabi embassy and they are post pictures of their visas everyday. Unfortunately no other groups seem to be as forth coming. So do we know if certain embassies approve visas more frequently than others? All my research says embassy has no control over the process, but with things changing so recently, maybe some embassies simply have not caught up with the new process yet?

[JoeySantino 10]

59 minutes ago, NJ515 said:

Woo ya man let's get it!!! We changed to "or" today also.

Gotta love that "or"