Female friend. Go for it or be happy with what I have?

[Fandango 1,439]

Well, it seems to me that all of the "I want you to ask me out" signs are there, but sometimes I just don't understand women.

I agree.

I will also add that you obviously can't be friends. Friendship doesn't last when one party (at least) wants something more. Don't fool yourself thinking you can "be happy with what you have" because you won't have it for long.

Couldn't agree more.

Cos if she really does 'just wanna be friends'...try holdin her hand after she's got a bf....

Go for it!!!!!!!

[Oath 0]

I'm with the 'I don't understand women' crowd in so much as I don't understand women

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Well, it seems to me that all of the "I want you to ask me out" signs are there, but sometimes I just don't understand women.

I agree.

I will also add that you obviously can't be friends. Friendship doesn't last when one party (at least) wants something more. Don't fool yourself thinking you can "be happy with what you have" because you won't have it for long.

Amen.

[Caladan 19]

Just ask her out for coffee. It's not like it's a marriage proposal.

[archie07 0]

Hey all. Havent posted for a while but always lurk and read. Here for some more wise advice!

This actually kinda continues from and old post a few months back. There have been some developments.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;#entry673999

OK so what has happened since? We carried on being friends, well kinda friends. Hello's goodbyes etc. She then fell out with me totally. Couldnt stand being around me. I hadn't done anything wrong. She apologised to me and admitted this, saying it was all her fault It wasnt really anything to do with me she was just taking something else out on me. From there we actually became more open. The awkwardness went away and we started hanging out and talking a little more. Over the past couple of months things have gotten even better. Were actually really good, pretty close friends. We had a few good chats and good nights out (although never just the two of us). She has said she thinks alot of me, that I am one of only two people she can open up to, that she really likes that I dont judge her etc. She has held my hand some times when weve been out. Has asked me to hug her to keep her warm when were in line for a bar. One particular night she kept getting me to feel her butt cos it was wet. Sometimes she is quite flirty. We'll touch each other when we talk. Last night she really missed her son (who spends the weekends with his dad) and she started crying in the taxi and clung onto me crying on my shoulder.

I think I really am going to have to wait and see what happens. I mean we literally are just friends now, but really good friends. People have commented that she seems to be warming to me and she has commented to a mutual friend that she hasnt ruled out something developing between us. Thing is I would rather have what we've got than nothing at all. I do sometimes admittedly get jealous when she sometimes flirts with other guys, I try not to be, and she has every right to do so as we ARE just friends. Ultimately yes I definately want more. But Im not sure Im prepared to risk scaring her off and losing her completely by making a move. It isnt purely a sexual thing. When we met and kissed that night I thought she was cute, but didnt know her at all. As ive gotten to know her I think she is gorgeous but I really do care about her a heck of a lot. We are going out to a theme park tomorrow again with two of our female friends. I guess I should just suck it up and be the friend she wants and see what happens and leave it to her. The big test will come if she starts seeing a guy though. That will take some strength, will be happy for her of course but will be tough. Any advice? Should I just go with the flow and see what happens and explore other options in the mean time? Should I try and test the water a little and ask her somewhere just us two, even if its just shopping or something? Im really, really torn between being so happy with what weve got considering how we started off and wanting more. Am I being greedy?

I'd Back off and let her come to you. If she wants you she will let you know. If she gets a boyfriend you'll only get blown off. This way you will know if your getting played or not before you develope deaper feelings. She already knows your after her so maybe it's time you let her come to papa,,, good luck

[JenT 0]

Hi David,

I remember your history. Honestly, I think she's playing you for emotional support until she finds someone else. Don't ask me why I feel that way, but that was what came to mind when I read your post. It's not fair to you for her to be playing with your emotions the way that she is. She's taking advantage of your availability.... but the way to prove her intentions would be to ask her out... if she says no and continues with the 'just friends' attitude, I would draw your boundaries to protect your own feelings.

I hope this works out the best way for BOTH of you....

Jen

[mRx 16]

You are in the "friend zone", pal. Unfortunately, by the way you express your feelings, it is definetely not a place you want to be. With 5-6 months of knowing her, if she had "more than friends" feelings for you, then you would know it by now.

Maybe you should consider dating someone? Show her that you are not just going to sit on the backburner and wait. If that upsets her, then let her make a move. If not, then be friends, but can those feelings, because they are not reciprical. Good luck.

[metta 0]

To the OP:

I don't know if this will be of any help but here is something that comes from this socalled Dating GURU who sends out spams from time to time:

I am too old and too married for this information to be of any use to me( if it is as any effective as claims to be). Anyhow, its fun to read though

How To "Get Physical" With A Woman

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>I believe that one of the "secrets" of GETTING

PHYSICAL with a woman is knowing how to create a

MASSIVE amount of what you just might call "animal

magnetism". And I've developed a system for

creating this POWERFUL attraction that I call

"Power Sexuality".

***QUESTION***

I have been using your techniques for the past

month and my "popularity" is soaring. I would like

to thank you for finally saying what I have

thought for years. Here is my question. About 5

years ago I used to go to this bar and there was a

server that I was just ga ga for. Back then I was

very shy and reserved. We talked here and there

nothing ever happened more than that and that was

only when she brought me my drinks. Well, this

weekend was my first weekend out since I moved

back home and she was working at this new bar, I

went to go approach her and all of sudden my mind

was blank so I just backed off b4 she even knew i

was going to approach her. How should I handle

this especially since she has been bartending for

at least 5 years she has seen it all and been hit

on by EVERYONE! What would you do?

D.V.

West Virginia

>>>MY COMMENTS:

One of the keys to approaching women like this

one who are hit on ALL THE TIME by guys is to be

as TOTALLY COOL AND CALM AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

By the way, bartenders are EXCELLENT candidates

for asking "Hey, do you have email?"... because

it's very low-key and non-threatening.

Try this... roll into the bar, and when you see

her, say "Hey, long time no see... so you're still

tending bar after all these years, huh?"

See if she remembers you. If she doesn't, then

make some small talk about how you used to come in

the other bar where she worked. But keep it short,

because she'll probably be busy.

Then say "So what, are you married with ten

kids now?"

This is a cute way to ask a woman that you

haven't talked to in awhile if she's single...

Then say "Well, I'm going to get back to my

friends... good seeing you"... and just as you

turn, shoot back over your shoulder "Hey! Do you

have email?"

If she says "Yes", then say "Great, write it

down for me."

Remember, the key is to be laid back and cool

about it. Just act like you're connecting with an

old female friend from high school.

***QUESTION***

Now personally I like to describe myself as an

idealist, you would probably dub me king of the

wusses. Yet every once in awhile Ill pull my head

out of the clouds and look at the world around me

with some realism. Case in point is a young women

I met almost a year ago (also the reason i started

subscribing to the newsletter) Now at first things

actually seemed to go well but they degenerated

and after careful look around I think I know why.

After one of those lovely "lets just be friends"

talks I started talking to one of her female

friends, and oddly enough she got jealous. (

approx 2 hrs. later) Now I have had other female

friends tell me shes flirting with me.... but the

best results I have ever gotten with her is when

she told me to sue her. Now being a prelaw student

I wrote out a very complementary and sarcastic

legal complaint it broke down barriers almost

immediately, and for about three weeks we were

trying to figure out when we were both free to go

out (we both had 30+credit hours of classes) Sadly

it feel through because of an old boyfriend

pissing her off at guys in general.

Now what I believe works so well with cocky and

funny, is that it goes around so many of those

internal self-defense mechanisms by giving them

the opportunity to be the aggressor. More

importantly, it gives them a challenge where you

can't be made into an enemy. (unlike the

traditional advice of my friends to go out with

another girl to get her jealous) Finally the well

documented phenomenon that while girls may

initially like a guy being super nice it quickly

grows boring ( much like many college professors.)

but cocky and funny offers a way of being nice but

in a different less boring way. In closing, I just

want to say what a deviously simple and effective

device you have cooked up in cocky and funny. kR

Gainesville FL

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Well, I'd like to extend to you an offer of

gratitude and appreciation for the aforementioned

compliments... and I'd also like to recommend that

you stop talking so much like an attorney... lol.

And by the way, your plans with her probably

didn't fall through because an old boyfriend

"pissed her off at guys in general"... it probably

happened because you didn't MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN

with her.

There's ALWAYS time to get together with a

woman.

If she says "Well, I have a lot of homework to

do", just say, "Well, procrastinate tonight... I'm

more fun".

Women generally seem to love it when you say

"Cancel your plans... I'm more interesting

anyway". It says all the right things in a Cocky

and Funny way.

Thanks for the compliments, by the way!

***QUESTION***

Hey!! I need your help with some examples of cocky

& funny!! Firstly let me tell you how your book

has helped me after just a few days!! I saw an

attractive girl in a club that I go to often. This

was the first time that I left with a phone number

& email address. I decided that enough is enough

and I was just going to approach someone. I walked

over to her and asked if she would do me a favour

by requesting a song for me, she asked why I

wouldnt do it and I said that the DJ might play it

if she askes cos some guys might consider her to

be pretty which she asked if I was one of them,

but I didnt answer but just again told her to do

me this favour. She asked me to go with her ... I

went with her, thanked her afterwards and went

back to my friends. Basically not paying much

attention to her for the next 45 mins. When I

(accidentally) bumped into her again, I asked her

name, if she had email. She automatically offered

me her address, so I waited till she was writing

it down when I told her to include her phone

number, although her actual no etc... after that I

told her I would talk to her soon....... and that

I was going back to my friends, she sat down to

have a conversation with me, but I left. Now this

is where I need your help about the cocky & funny.

As I am only beginning, I could use a couple of

examples of what I could say to her, and do I do

it on the phone or wait till the actual date?? I

was thinking along the lines of saying I had to

ask for her number seeing that she went out of her

way to impress me.... etc... so any other

suggestions please would be very much appreciated.

CJ UK

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Nice job. I love the way you asked her to get

the DJ to play a song... and telling her that

"some guys might consider her pretty"... and then

not answering her as to whether or not you are one

of those guys.

Right now you should probably do a couple of

things:

1) Email her and say something charming, like

"Hey, it was good meeting you. Let's get together

for a cup of tea and make friends... just in case

I need you in the future to get some more DJs to

play music for me..."

2) read my book

***QUESTION***

Do you have any advice for night clubs or night

club tactics?

Thanks.

M.

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Well, nightclubs are a very interesting

phenomenon.

When you go to a nightclub, you'll see many

women that are acting out a paradox: They're all

dressed up in sexy clothes (obviously to get

attention from men), but they're acting like they

don't want men to talk to them most of the time.

Of course, this isn't always true all the time,

but if you go to nightclubs and bars, then I'm

SURE you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Here are a few pointers:

1) Remember that beautiful women are usually hit

on a lot at clubs and bars. Most of the guys are

drunk and stupid... or using lame pick up lines...

or acting like wussies... or offering to buy

drinks... etc.

The first thing to do is NOT ACT LIKE OTHER

STUPID GUYS WHO HAVE NO GAME.

Don't kiss up to women in nightclubs, and don't

GIVE THEM YOUR POWER. In other words, hold

yourself and communicate like you are in complete

control of yourself and your surroundings... and

like nothing she does can upset you.

2) Remember that for the first few minutes you're

probably going to get some resistance from most

women.

One of the big tests when meeting women in a

nightclub is whether or not you can keep talking

to a woman who isn't being overly friendly.

Now, some women will be completely cold and

uninterested.

If you encounter a rude or cold woman, just

move on... you need to be selective and not put

aside your own standards just because a woman is

attractive.

On the other hand, if a woman seems a little

bit resistant, just keep the conversation going.

You'll find in many cases that after 5 or 10

minutes she'll begin to warm up.

If you're having a conversation (as opposed to

just getting her email/number and leaving), then

you need to turn up the Cocky and Funny comments,

and just play it cool like a friend.

Bars are a great place for palmistry,

astrology, handwriting analysis, and other "cold

reading" techniques. Learn a few if you want to

have great conversations in bars.

3) If you're not VERY SKILLED, then just get a

woman's email and/or number and go. There are so

many distractions in bars and clubs that it really

makes it difficult to have an understandable

conversation. There are other guys, usually her

girlfriends, etc., and if you don't REALLY know

what you're doing, then you're likely to drop the

ball somewhere.

Just get the digits and follow up later.

4) Try going with a friend and approaching women

for each other. Go up to a woman and say "Hi,

wow... you know what? I think my friend would

really love you. He's such a nice guy..." and then

talk up your friend. When he shows up, introduce

him. This is a great way to start conversations

with women if you're just getting started.

5) Don't worry about what happens. Just go over

and talk to every woman you see. The women expect

it, and it's GREAT practice!

Also, it's a great idea to find guys who are

good at meeting women in bars and to WATCH THEM to

learn how to act. You'll learn a lot from doing

this.

***QUESTION***

Dave,

Firstly a good effort all round on the book and

newsletters full of useful stuff and always good

for a laugh when I realise that I have done the

same things as thousands of other blokes and

crashed and burned in the same way. I've been

getting the newsletters for a few months and also

got the book, after not having any success for

over 3 years I'm getting confidence by practicing

the techinques in different situations like with

checkout ladies in the grocery store and other

shops, its natural to talk to them, you make their

day as they've been sat there all day and nobody's

spoken to them and you get feed back on c+f lines,

a captive audience, use it guys. I've also bought

a book on Palm reading as advised by you, I'll let

you know who I go on this one.

Ok my question. In your newsletters and book you

mostly deal with getting the e-mail address and

meeting up a few days later, which is great if

you're always in the same town. I move around a

lot with my job from hotel to hotel. I'm also

leaving my job in a few months to travel the

world. With this in mind I won't have the time to

take a few days to mail and meet for coffee etc as

I'm/will be constantly moving on every few days-

weeks. Do you have any advice for closing the deal

in a first meeting and then walking away from it?

i.e. the one night stand, as if I walk away after

3 minutes with only an e-mail address thats the

opportunity gone. I'm sure there are plenty of

readers that would benefit from some advice in

this area. Keep up the good work D.

Wales

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Well, if you meet a woman in a checkout line or

at the desk of a hotel, try your new palmistry

techniques with her, and once she's interested

just say, "Well, I have to go check into my room

now. But I'll meet you at the coffee shop across

the street at 7 and tell you more."

There are 100 ways to use this stuff, of

course.

One thing you really have going for you is the

fact that you're NEW to each area, and you're ONLY

STAYING A SHORT TIME.

Women really love to play tour guide, so ask

them to.

Just say, "Hey, I don't really know my way

around here, are you busy today? Take me to some

of the sights."

Charm them with your fun personality, read

their palms, and then have them show you around.

After a little area tour, invite them up to

your hotel for a drink and some lip reading...

***QUESTION***

Cocky & Funny Categories

Dear David, using the C & F techniques, and

analysing them, I have discovered that there

several classes or categories of c & f :

1) When you are cockyandfunniing about you. You

are saying that you are the best, or you are very

sexy, clever, etc in a funny way. i.e.Me:"You

know, I'm really tired of you women treating me

like some kind of piece of meat. I have feelings

too, and I don't just like being thought of as a

sex object."

2) When you are cockyandfunniing about her. You

are saying that she is wussy, nerd, ridiculous,

etc in a funny way. i.e. "Hey, I can borrow you a

wig, but please, don't kill it's roots !! 3) When

you cockyandfunniing about other person, an

object, a place, etc. i.e. Me:"You know, if that

chick lost about 200 pounds, I think I'd be into

her"

3) when you are inverting(in a funny way) the

stereotypes and asummes than girl must date boy,

girl must approach boy, etc i.e: SHE:"Are you from

around here?" ME: "What, are you trying to pick me

up? I'm not that easy.

There are other cocky & funny categories, and some

categories mix each others, but these are the more

important (I think). I think that the #2 & #3 are

the more powerful and efective categories. I'm

going to tell you, in wich case I use them (If the

Maestro agree with me )

1. C & F about me. It's useful, but you can't use

it too mutch, it's more useful If you are a not a

cute boy, if you are awful,(bald, overheight,

etc). You have to use it with care, if not you are

becaming too cocky. 2. c & f about her. It's

very useful,(especially on hotties and average

women), and it's very powerful, but I discover

that if she has low selfsteem she may get upset

(but she will get atracted too). 3. c & f about

other things. This is the more secure c & f mode,

but it is generates less atraction than others. 4.

c & f inverting stereotipes It's very funny and

it's very powerful, and easy to see.

>>>MY COMMENTS:

This is a great little set of categories, and

it's a great place to start if you're trying to

come up with funny and charming things to say for

different situations.

I've included it here, so others can use it as

a guide when working on their own situations...

very nice, and thanks!

***QUESTION***

Dave, Hey, I just downloaded your e-book

(finally) and I must say that the information in

it is absolutely invaluable. I have already gotten

a few email addresses and my confidence is really

improving. However, there is a few problems that I

have encountered that I really don't have any

answer for. For instance, just the other night a

few girls were hanging out in my roommates and I

dorm room at the college we attend. I was pulling

the whole cocky and funny thing on the cutest of

the bunch and she really seemed to be eating it

all up. I mean, she was laughing, hitting me (in a

playful manner) asking me questions and just being

totally receptive to me. This lasted for probably

over an hour.

However, for reasons I cannot explain, she

started showing interest in one of my friends for

some reason. I mean, she was asking him questions,

focusing her attention on him, sitting by him etc.

I really don't know what I did wrong orwhat I

should of done in this situation. Please give me

some insight as to what the heck is going on in a

situation such as this one.

Also, I attend a small university so there are

many beautiful women to practice my game on.

However, at the same time many of the girls know

each other so I don't want to ask for email

addresses like it's going out of style and get

labeled as someone who is desperate. What should I

do? I mean, it sucks seeing a girl you got shut

down by everyday, now imagine if you see like five

or ten girls you got shut down by everyday.

Please, some words of wisdom would be tremendously

appreciated.

I.

OH.

>>>MY COMMENTS:

As far as your first situation goes... there

are several possibilities.

My guess is that you waited too long to go to

the next level. Instead of talking to her for AN

HOUR, maybe you should have busted on her for 15

minutes and then said "Hey, come with me to the

store..." and left with her.

Then you could have progressed, maybe held her

hand, kissed her, etc.

If you wait too long with an attractive woman,

she'll lose interest.

And by the way, you never know... she might

just have liked your friend or whatever.

The point is, it really doesn't matter. Just

say "next" in your head and move on.

And about your concern that women label you as

"desperate", who cares? It's more important that

you TAKE ACTION and NOT CARE WHAT OTHERS THINK

than it is that you have all the hot woman on your

campus "not think of you as desperate".

Just do it.

***QUESTION***

Hi David,

I don't think I've ever seen you address the

"friends first" issue... I think there's a

difference between a woman saying "i only like you

as a friend" and "lets be friends first and build

a relationship from that". Especially if you meet

the woman from a personal ad which says she wants

friends first.. (so its not like shes saying she's

saying you have to be her friend first when you

first meet her) The only thing that bothers me is

if she thinks of you as a friend then she's still

single so she might date other guys and you get to

hear about it. This isn't really a question to a

specific problem, but because I'm still new to

dating (I'm 21) and don't have much experience

(which is changing thanks to your great

newsletters!) I have run into a few of the

"friends first" encounters and I don't know quite

what to make of it.. should I be their friend

first, and think it might turn into something

more?

Thanks!

SK

Florida

>>>MY COMMENTS:

OK, the only real difference between a woman

saying "I only like you as a friend" and "Let's be

friends first and see what happens" is... WHEN YOU

HEAR "LET'S BE FRIENDS FIRST" IT TRICKS YOU INTO

BELIEVING THAT THIS COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN... SO

YOU WIND UP SPANKING YOUR CHICKEN FOR ABOUT TEN

TIMES AS LONG...

When a woman says "Let's be friends first",

what they REALLY mean is "I don't feel a gut

level, sexual ATTRACTION for you right now... but

you're an awful nice guy and I don't want to hurt

your feelings..."

If you see a personal ad with "Friends first"

it probably means that the last guy she dated

wanted to get married after the first date... and

she doesn't want another loser WUSSY boy in her

life.

Of course, there are a lot of possibilities,

but generally speaking, you don't want to get into

"friend" mode, because it's not easy to get out.

Telling HER that she seems like she'd make a

nice friend is a GREAT idea, because it makes her

wonder if you like her, and it creates tension.

If this doesn't make sense to you, then I'd

recommend that you check out my book or audio

series and then think about it again. Until you

"GET" this, you're going to have a hard time

attracting a woman.

***QUESTION***

I got your book and the first thing I did was read

the short book about Sex Secrets... lol Now I

figured I was pretty successful with the women and

wanted to see how I compared to your tactics....

man you nailed it big time!!

I have been seeing this one gorgeous woman for

about 2 months now and I thought about what you

said in the book.... to keep her attracted and

wanting more.... use anticipation. Well I know

she wants me bad and so I thought I would just see

how bad she does, so I talked to her over

lunch.... since she only had 30 minutes for lunch

I put it to the test right off. She sat down close

to me and looked me in the eyes.... I commented on

her beauty and ran my hand over her leg just

slightly to let her know I was there and what I

was thinking.... I could see her light up

instantly. I took my hand away and changed the

conversation knowing the anticipation was already

building.

I told her how I would like to give her a

massage... body massage to ease her stress and she

agreed this would be good.... I then ran my

fingers over her hand and then touched her

slightly on the cheek.... lol... she was eating

this up. I then noticed she had a slight stain on

her uniform and reached to dust it off... this

thru her big time.... she squealed a little and

said it gave her goose bumps....lol.... I just

gave her a slight smile and backed off again. Her

next comment was, I wish I brought a change of

clothes here today cause I am gonna need

em'...lol... I knew the anticipation was working!

Although these were things I would normally have

done without reading about it, the book is a great

source and it works... so guys if you want to get

the heads up on moving her to the next level,

order the book.... you won't be sorry!!

ANTICIPATION!!! Keep up the great work my man!

R. Canada

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yes, understanding this concept of Anticipation

is SUCH a key to making women feel turned on.

I don't mention it much, but that bonus booklet

that comes along with Double Your Dating is a VERY

powerful set of ideas and techniques for getting a

woman VERY turned on...

As you know, there are little things you can do

physically that literally make a woman go crazy

with desire. I'm sure you're making this lady VERY

happy... and I'm sure that she can't believe that

she's met a guy who actually "gets it".

Nice, and keep up the great work.

***QUESTION***

Hi Dave, I liked your book and I love your news

letter which is very informative and quite

creative, both by you and also other contributors;

keep it up. Basically I've been a successful guy

with the females by being very masculine and proud

of it and I'm glad that in your book you encourage

this attitude. After reading your book I have

increased my success with the females tenfold and

I thank you for that.I am 32 but I look about 20

and even when I was younger I've always fancied

women that were much older than me but I always

attracted younger girls who I like as well but

with your help the girl l'm going out with is 33

(she thinks l'm 21 because l told her to guess my

age) and she's extremely attractive (10 out of 10)

successful and confident and men of all ages try

to pick on her whenever we go out and l leave her

alone. We met when I went for an interview for the

company she owns and she ask for me to come to her

office and after I complimented her on her

business she said l was flattering her and l said

"in your dreams, that's the worst pick up line

l've heard all day", and she was so taken back by

the challenge l presented to her that after I told

her the compliment was just to get the job and

that she shouldn't use her position just to use me

as a piece of meat. Anyway l poured out C&F on

her even told her that l wouldn't take the job

because l knew what she was up to and she said we

needed to talk and she gave me her card with all

her contact # and she also wrote her private home

and mobile #. l took the card but l told her since

it was her interested in me she should call me and

l gave her my # as well. She called the same day

and we've been seeing each other ever since.

But l do have a question in one of your news

letters you said "women perceive good-looking guys

who act cocky as MAJOR PLAYER, and too much cocky

too soon can back fire on you". Further you said

that "If you are a pretty good looking , you might

turn down the cocky and turn up funny". Well l'm

good looking oh yes; but l know it's not

everything but it helps and true to your above

statement sometimes when l'm cocky it back fires

on me even when the girl (or should l say

especially) makes the first move. I know you've

got the answer so please give it some of your time

and reply please. Maximum respect to you David. JS

London

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Well, here's the deal...

There are exceptions to every rule, and you may

have found one of them.

If you're a regular guy and you're dealing with

an attractive woman, then Cocky and Funny is

generally a great technique.

If you're a VERY attractive guy, then being too

Cocky and Funny can intimidate women and/or make

them think that you must be a big player.

NOW, if you're an attractive guy and you're

dealing with a VERY attractive woman who is also

POWERFUL (owns a company, for instance) then

you'll probably want to turn the Cocky and Funny

back up to provide MAXIMUM CHALLENGE to her.

The SUPER HOTTIES are used to ALL guys rolling

over for them, and you can turn up the heat if you

think she needs it in this situation.

***QUESTION***

Hey Dave, I've written atleast 1 million emails to

you! And i haven't heard anything back! Nah it's

cool i know you have another million emails that

start off the same way. So heres the question! How

do i get womens phone numbers for the possibilty

of sex, like they know if i ring its for sex kinda

thing. I don't want to do the whole date thing,

its boring and conversation is stupid! I just

wanna ring them up and say it like this, "hey i'm

really horny and i was wondering, do you wanna

come over for some 'action' and then piss off so i

can get some peace and quite?" I dont really want

them to hang around, it's kinda awkward. Im not an

a**hole but thats what i think is on most other

guys minds as well as mine. Is there anyway to put

this to a woman without them feeling hurt or as if

there being used?

Thanks R. Australia.

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Look, if I had the answer to this one I'D BE

RICHER THAN BILL GATES AND WARREN BUFFETT PUT

TOGETHER.

Now, will you do me a favor and please get a

life?

And stop emailing to ask how you can get women

to come over for sex because you're horny, then

piss off so you can get some peace and quiet

without them feeing hurt or used...

"Huh huh... Hey Beavith... I'm horny. We need a

chick."

***QUESTION***

Hi Dave,

I've been following your instructions to the

letter and I have to say it works like a charm! I

have one problem though. I never know when a woman

is attracted to me or not. I can't seem to be able

to pick up the signs. I mean I know lasses are

attracted to me only when their friends tell me or

they do. It can be REALLY annoying not knowing

whether to progress onwards or not.

I mean, at the moment there's this lass who's

really religious and I want to get with her & I've

been working overtime on the teasing and the

cocky/funny routine. I just can't tell where I

stand with her. I was just wondering if you had

any pointers that could help me? Thanks,

N. Bradley, England

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yes, it's very simple. I call it "The Kiss

Test".

You can see it on the second page of my main

web site, or read about it in my book.

You need to TAKE THINGS TO THE NEXT LEVEL

PHYSICALLY.

This will tell you EVERYTHING you need to know

INSTANTLY.

And by the way, if a woman will agree to spend

time alone with you, and she seems to be having a

good time, then she's probably interested at SOME

level.

If you're using the materials and being Cocky

and Funny etc. and she's hitting you, laughing,

etc. that's also a VERY good sign.

But use The Kiss Test. It's so simple and

easy... and it works SO well.

***QUESTION***

Well Dave,

It never ceases to amaze me how brilliant you

are. I saw that you put my e-mail in the

newsletter, so I guess I owe you the dirt. My

experience can be summed up in one word...

INF***INGCREDIBLE, but I won't stop with one word.

See if you can keep count? The first chick I met

sat next to me on the plane. CF. She crammed her

tongue down my throat. I got off the plane with a

different chick. CF. SHE asked Me to lunch with

her. On the shuttle to the Hotel, yet another

female. C&F. I'll come back to her. Poolside,

another young lady. C&F. She asked me to save a

dance at the party for her. He-he-he...

I could keep going but I don't want to jinx my

future success. To sum it up, I talked to over 20

different women, made out with 3, and woke up next

to 1 (I'm such a bad man). I got 4 out of 4 e-

mails/#s from girls I asked (the only girls that

we're worthy of myself){example of C&F and my

character}, and that girl from the shuttle... I

only talked to her for 3 minutes on that ride, and

she had a friend come and give me a note with her

info. The trip ended with a h-job on the plane

ride home. Now I don't encourage everyone out

there to use the info in DYD to become a male #######

like me. I am this way because this is the first

time I have been single since I was 18 (6 years

ago). This is also the first time that I have

really experienced success... Thanks to DYD and

C&F. I used to be a MAJOR WUSS. I never talked to

or went out with a girl unless she talked to

me/asked me out. Needless to say I was home a

lot. I never learned the SKILLS to be successful

with women until I bought Double-Your-Dating

(plug). Since I read the book three months ago, I

have literally hooked up with over a dozen women,

with very minimal effort. If you are reading this

it is OBVIOUS that you want to improve your life,

just like I did when I stumbled upon David's

website. Do yourself a favor, BUY THE DAMN BOOK!

Hell, if you don't achieve success with it, I will

buy it back from you. I've got some buddies out

there who can use this treasure. Stop being a WUSS

(like I was). Dave I owe it all to you. From

everyman getting laid because of your advice...

THANK YOU!!!!!!! G. from L.A. P.S. My first born

is going to be named David, even if its a girl!!!

>>>MY COMMENTS:

What else can I say?

I love getting letters like this one... NICE!

If you're reading this right now, and you'd

like to get an ADVANCED education in this

technique that I call "Cocky & Funny", then you

MUST go and check out my "Cocky Comedy" CD/DVD

program.

Inside I'm going to show you the "secret

psychology" of humor... of laughter... and of how

to combine humor with TENSION to create a powerful

ATTRACTION... using nothing more than your

communication skills.

The technique of Cocky & Funny is one of the

very fastest, easiest ways to create sexual

tension with women... and this program is going to

teach you how to do it.

Y

..

Learning how to be successful with women and

dating is NOT magic.

It doesn't require good looks or money.

And it CERTAINLY doesn't require you to chase

after women, buy them things, and give them fake

compliments.

If you'd like to get an in-depth education in

all aspects of success with women... from

overcoming fear and shyness... to improving your

self image... to approaching women... to meeting

women online... to taking things to a "physical

level" smoothly and without rejection... then you

MUST go and check out my Advanced Dating

Techniques DVD/CD program.

This program is the best overall education you

can get in the area called "Women And Dating".

I'll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend,

David D.

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[Ban Hammer 13,345]

bump - any update?

[Krikit 1,164]

bump - any update?

Hmmm. She sounds a bit unstable ("...crying in the taxi and clung onto me crying on my shoulder.") and high maintenance. Run, buddy, run. She's using you.

[dingding 0]

bump - any update?

No developments as such. We were out on saturday and sunday (four of us), we had a good night all in all. One of our mutual friends (her best friend) did comment that she is pretty sure she is backing off a bit because she is getting feelings but isnt sure what to do. I think the best thing for me to do is be there as a friend as we are and basically see how it goes. If I think the right time comes up to approach her about it then I will. I wont be seeing her much this week though, which could be a good thing actually.

[dingding 0]

bump - any update?

Hmmm. She sounds a bit unstable ("...crying in the taxi and clung onto me crying on my shoulder.") and high maintenance. Run, buddy, run. She's using you.

I know its hard for me to explain and for people to be able to see as lets face it none of you have ever met her. I don't think she is high maintenance or unstable if Im honest. She is usually such a strong girl, but I also know she has this softer more sensitive side on the inside thaqt she doesn't like to show. It wasn't like she just started blubbing and threw herself at me. That night I could just tell she wasnt herself and something was on her mind. I asked her when we were alone and she said she was fine. I knew she wasnt and probed a little more. She said "actually I feel like crying", to which I told her "if you feel like crying then cry you havent got to hold it back infront of me" to which she did and then admitted she was really missing her son. I told her "come here" to which she shook her head and said "its ok im fine"..I replied "dont be silly come here", thats when she came to me for comfort. The other guys then came back from the restaurant we had stopped at, so she quickly tried to compose herself a bit and tried to dry up the tears. She didnt want them to know she was crying. She did reach over and give my hand a good squeeze. And sent me a text message when she got home saying "Thank you.xxx".

I really don't think she is "using" me or taking advantage. To be honest I just don't think she knows what she wants. She may have feelings and just not feel ready to commit to a relationship yet. I know her two year old is her priority, which I totally understand, she is such a great mother.

[JohnK 0]

Sorry dude, you're SOL. As soon as a dude that makes her britches hot asks her out she'll be gone. Start spending your time looking for someone that actively wants to be in a relationship with you.

[jamrok 0]

Sorry dude, you're SOL. As soon as a dude that makes her britches hot asks her out she'll be gone. Start spending your time looking for someone that actively wants to be in a relationship with you.

JohnK echoed my own thoughts. Plain and simple; you have nothing in this...she holds

a position of power emotionally and your only asset here is your "availability".

[Krikit 1,164]

Sorry, dn, but she is exhibiting all the signs of someone who likes you as a friend and does not want to hurt your feelings. Females do this. If she was really interested she would definitely know what she wants. Cross her off your list and move on. You sound like a great guy so I am betting there is someone else out there who will appreciate you and your heart. But you can't find her if you are stuck on the one who doesn't. Best wishes.