Trump proposal would make it harder for legal immigrants to gain citizenship (merged)

[Roel 7,192]

7 minutes ago, IndigoPhantom said:

Yes it does. You don't get to say how people should not immigrate to the US anymore

Im telling  you the facts. Not my fault you don't react well to them. I don't have a say.  I'm not a president. At least not yet. Who knows what the future holds right? Vote! I promise to be a little better than Trump. 😘

[Ben&Zian 4,397]

2 minutes ago, Roel said:

Im telling  you the facts. Not my fault you don't react well to them. I don't have a say.  I'm not a president. At least not yet. Who knows what the future holds right? Vote! I promise to be a little better than Trump. 😘

 

Woo I could only imagine your press conferences or rallies haha  

Edited August 7, 2018 by Ben&Zian

[Roel 7,192]

1 minute ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

Woo I could only imagine your press conferences or rallies haha  

Free Netflix for everyone. That would be my secret way to win. 

[Ben&Zian 4,397]

Just now, Roel said:

Free Netflix for everyone. That would be my secret way to win. 

 

Hah. I was imagining more of a "You want to talk about my  ******* medical insurance plan? I'll tell you about that ******* plan... ******** ********** ********* **********..... there, ******** happy?"

[IndigoPhantom 35]

11 minutes ago, Roel said:

Im telling  you the facts. Not my fault you don't react well to them. I don't have a say.  I'm not a president. At least not yet. Who knows what the future holds right? Vote! I promise to be a little better than Trump. 😘

If those are the facts then you should have remained in Poland yet here you are...a migrant in the US. And I will vote for you if your birth certificate shows you were born in the US. Heard birth certificates are a big deal when running for president in the US.

[rock4blaqkhearts 12]

10 minutes ago, Roel said:

Free Netflix for everyone. That would be my secret way to win. 

How will you pay for the free Netflix?

[bananite 67]

1 minute ago, rock4blaqkhearts said:

How will you pay for the free Netflix?

Well they have a way to pay billions for a bunch of jets and aircraft carries and other huge military spending projects during peacetime, so I don't see how netflix for all is out of the question. 

[Jaquelly 1,647]

7 minutes ago, rock4blaqkhearts said:

How will you pay for the free Netflix?

 

5 minutes ago, bananite said:

Well they have a way to pay billions for a bunch of jets and aircraft carries and other huge military spending projects during peacetime, so I don't see how netflix for all is out of the question. 

 

As Roel's CNO (chief Netflix officer) we will be charging tax every time someone talks about OR watches a Kardashian show.

[mushroomspore 3,043]

Honestly, a lot of articles on US immigration are badly written and poorly researched. As a writer myself, it offends me. There was an article about a man who was arrested by ICE at his mareuage-based GC interview. The article said the interview is the FIRST step of the process. Unimpressed!!

[Michelle M 133]

Migration, immigration and emigration is as old as time.  The debate have been happening for centuries.  So whether you are liberal or not, supports the current president or not, the one thing that will remain true is the "Poor with be with us always".

 

 

For many of us on this forum  immigration is new but for some we are second and third generation immigrants and the fear of our mothers, fathers or grandparent being sent back to place they haven't lived in decades is real.

 

I don't watch the news because it is just rubbish, however people leave their home countries for various reason and the assumption they are coming to the USA to live on hand out is plain shortsighted and lack of insight.

[gregcrs2 1,777]

20 minutes ago, IndigoPhantom said:

If those are the facts then you should have remained in Poland yet here you are...a migrant in the US. And I will vote for you if your birth certificate shows you were born in the US. Heard birth certificates are a big deal when running for president in the US.

Good grief! Comments like that are totally unnecessary.

[CarlHamilton 252]

10 minutes ago, mushroomspore said:

Honestly, a lot of articles on US immigration are badly written and poorly researched. As a writer myself, it offends me. There was an article about a man who was arrested by ICE at his mareuage-based GC interview. The article said the interview is the FIRST step of the process. Unimpressed!!

He also had an active deportation order if I recall correctly, which failed to make the headline. 

[King-north 0]

1 hour ago, King-north said:

This page from government website shows that LPR are eligible for Obamacare including subsidies and it wont affect naturalization process.

 

https://www.healthcare.gov/immigrants/lawfully-present-immigrants/

 

Applying for Medicaid or CHIP, or getting savings for health insurance costs in the Marketplace, doesn’t make someone a "public charge." This means it won’t affect their chances of becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident or U.S. citizen.

There’s one exception. People receiving long-term care in an institution at government expense may face barriers getting a green card.

 

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Right now uscis definition of public charge:

 

A. Cash assistance for income maintenance and institutionalization for long-term care at government expense may be considered for public charge purposes. However, receipt of such benefits must still be considered in the context of the totality of the circumstances before a person will be deemed inadmissible on public charge grounds.

Public benefits that are received by one member of a family are also not attributed to other family members for public charge purposes unless the cash benefits amount to the sole support of the family.

Acceptance of the following types of assistance may lead to the determination that the individual is likely to become a public charge:

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) under Title XVI of Social Security Act

• Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) cash assistance (part A of Title IV of the Social Security Act--the successor to the AFDC program) (Note: Non cash benefits under TANF such as subsidized child care or transit subsidies cannot be considered and non-recurrent cash payments for crisis situations cannot be considered for evidence of public charge)
• State and local cash assistance programs that provide benefits for income maintenance (often called "General Assistance" programs)
• Programs (including Medicaid) supporting individuals who are institutionalized for long-term care (e.g., in a nursing home or mental health institution). (Note: costs of incarceration for prison are not considered for public charge determinations)

This is not an exhaustive list of the types of cash benefits that could lead to a determination that a person is likely to become primarily dependent on the government for subsistence, and thus, a public charge. Receipt of any such cash benefits not listed above will continue to be assessed under the “totality of the circumstances” analysis described above.

This is current policy so this does not matter now?  People who were following these guidelines will be punished?

[Ben&Zian 4,397]

I'm just at this stage now.   been a good day.. a good day..

[Michelle M 133]

1 hour ago, Roel said:

Nothing would happen. Americans have so many kids the population would be just fine. 

Social Security will definitely die; the  influx of new immigrants is keeping it alive.