Trump proposal would make it harder for legal immigrants to gain citizenship (merged)

[Jaquelly 1,647]

1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

We do indeed sign those agreements of financial support. And legal immigrants are also bound to not use things which are restricted under ''public charge'' rules. But the federal exchange (Obamacare) is NOT, I repeat, is NOT, anything to do with being a public charge. Furthermore, even if a USC spouse uses benefits which might fall under the ''public charge'' section, but their LPR spouse does not, this is also all perfectly legal. Having legal health insurance which does not fall under ''assistance'' which is purchased via an exchange and paid to a private health insurance company does not constitute being a public charge. It's called being responsible and having health insurance. LPRs and their USC spouses who get to claim any, if at all benefit of a subsidy by having a reduction in their payment, is still not in any way shape or form ''a public charge'', and is very tiny a number. Most who sign up to O'care do not get payment reduction, and pay the same dang high premium as anyone else does, on the same dang plan you could call up the insurance company and get anyway, you know?

 

Thank you

I know I seem really insensitive. I'm not trying to be. There's so much outrage, and I should really take a moment to ask more questions before I say that I am indifferent about something.

 

They should not hold it against the USC and their spouse if they need public assistance, especially not retroactively. That would mess things up for so many people.

[Roel 7,192]

1 minute ago, bananite said:

Then why are you even on this site...

To answer pointless posts apparently. 

 

It is a truth though. There are many countires that don't have immigrants coming all the time. And they are FINE. If immigrants would stop coming to the US, it would be fine too... It's simple. 

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Just now, Roel said:

To answer pointless posts apparently. 

 

It is a truth though. There are many countires that don't have immigrants coming all the time. And they are FINE. If immigrants would stop coming to the US, it would be fine too... It's simple. 

 

Truth. There are enough people who want kids and have them, or people who don't want kids and get pregnant... But scientifically, the birth rate dipped to a 30 year low this year, and we're already below the 'replacement level'. 

[bananite 67]

1 minute ago, Roel said:

To answer pointless posts apparently. 

 

It is a truth though. There are many countires that don't have immigrants coming all the time. And they are FINE. If immigrants would stop coming to the US, it would be fine too... It's simple. 

Ok, then maybe you and your spouse (which ever one immigrated here) should go away. 

[IndigoPhantom 35]

2 hours ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

Like most liberal media, fear sells... Never will understand it but oh well, I don't, nor does my husband, buy into any of it. He doesn't even understand why everyone is so anti-Trump, he actually supports most of his agenda/ideas. Makes sense he says. Most of the things going on are actually positive, but anyone can take a gain and turn it into a negative if they want to that badly.

Is that so...I would love to hear his opinions on Trumps administration policies of same sex marriages.

[King-north 0]

This page from government website shows that LPR are eligible for Obamacare including subsidies and it wont affect naturalization process.

 

https://www.healthcare.gov/immigrants/lawfully-present-immigrants/

 

Applying for Medicaid or CHIP, or getting savings for health insurance costs in the Marketplace, doesn’t make someone a "public charge." This means it won’t affect their chances of becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident or U.S. citizen.

There’s one exception. People receiving long-term care in an institution at government expense may face barriers getting a green card.

 

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Right now uscis definition of public charge:

 

A. Cash assistance for income maintenance and institutionalization for long-term care at government expense may be considered for public charge purposes. However, receipt of such benefits must still be considered in the context of the totality of the circumstances before a person will be deemed inadmissible on public charge grounds.

Public benefits that are received by one member of a family are also not attributed to other family members for public charge purposes unless the cash benefits amount to the sole support of the family.

Acceptance of the following types of assistance may lead to the determination that the individual is likely to become a public charge:

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) under Title XVI of Social Security Act

• Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) cash assistance (part A of Title IV of the Social Security Act--the successor to the AFDC program) (Note: Non cash benefits under TANF such as subsidized child care or transit subsidies cannot be considered and non-recurrent cash payments for crisis situations cannot be considered for evidence of public charge)
• State and local cash assistance programs that provide benefits for income maintenance (often called "General Assistance" programs)
• Programs (including Medicaid) supporting individuals who are institutionalized for long-term care (e.g., in a nursing home or mental health institution). (Note: costs of incarceration for prison are not considered for public charge determinations)

This is not an exhaustive list of the types of cash benefits that could lead to a determination that a person is likely to become primarily dependent on the government for subsistence, and thus, a public charge. Receipt of any such cash benefits not listed above will continue to be assessed under the “totality of the circumstances” analysis described above.

[Jaquelly 1,647]

1 minute ago, bananite said:

Ok, then maybe you and your spouse (which ever one immigrated here) should go away. 

That is not only uncalled for but really rude. Roel gives harsh but honest statements. They're an asset on this site.

[Dashinka 24,492]

3 hours ago, missileman said:

Can anyone explain who these legal immigrants who don't have Green Cards are? (1st paragraph says it will be more difficult for legal immigrants to get Green cards)

Can anyone explain the 2nd paragraph?

H1B’s or any other dual intent visa.

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

This thing is still going? Seems rather pointless since it's just a bunch of bickering now.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

H1B’s or any other dual intent visa.

Thanks

[IndigoPhantom 35]

4 minutes ago, Roel said:

To answer pointless posts apparently. 

 

It is a truth though. There are many countires that don't have immigrants coming all the time. And they are FINE. If immigrants would stop coming to the US, it would be fine too... It's simple. 

Then I guess we should be expecting you and your spouse to be heading back to Poland then. Easy for you to say that when you (or spouse) has already migrated. pfft!

[rock4blaqkhearts 12]

Just now, Ben&Zian said:

This thing is still going? Seems rather pointless since it's just a bunch of bickering now.

Yeah, but it's entertaining.

[Dashinka 24,492]

Just now, missileman said:

Thanks

I agree though, a very poorly written article to promote fear.

[bananite 67]

3 minutes ago, Jaquelly said:

That is not only uncalled for but really rude. Roel gives harsh but honest statements. They're an asset on this site.

Yeah I'm not really sure how telling immigrants on an immigration site that it would be fine to have the US stop letting in immigrants altogether is an asset. Especially since they/their spouse is one, it's a very "screw you, we got ours" attitude, the type of attitude that is ruining this country. 

Edited August 7, 2018 by bananite

[yuna628 9,676]

3 minutes ago, King-north said:

This page from government website shows that LPR are eligible for Obamacare including subsidies and it wont affect naturalization process.

 

https://www.healthcare.gov/immigrants/lawfully-present-immigrants/

 

Applying for Medicaid or CHIP, or getting savings for health insurance costs in the Marketplace, doesn’t make someone a "public charge." This means it won’t affect their chances of becoming a Lawful Permanent Resident or U.S. citizen.

There’s one exception. People receiving long-term care in an institution at government expense may face barriers getting a green card.

 

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Right now uscis definition of public charge:

 

A. Cash assistance for income maintenance and institutionalization for long-term care at government expense may be considered for public charge purposes. However, receipt of such benefits must still be considered in the context of the totality of the circumstances before a person will be deemed inadmissible on public charge grounds.

Public benefits that are received by one member of a family are also not attributed to other family members for public charge purposes unless the cash benefits amount to the sole support of the family.

Acceptance of the following types of assistance may lead to the determination that the individual is likely to become a public charge:

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) under Title XVI of Social Security Act

• Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) cash assistance (part A of Title IV of the Social Security Act--the successor to the AFDC program) (Note: Non cash benefits under TANF such as subsidized child care or transit subsidies cannot be considered and non-recurrent cash payments for crisis situations cannot be considered for evidence of public charge)
• State and local cash assistance programs that provide benefits for income maintenance (often called "General Assistance" programs)
• Programs (including Medicaid) supporting individuals who are institutionalized for long-term care (e.g., in a nursing home or mental health institution). (Note: costs of incarceration for prison are not considered for public charge determinations)

This is not an exhaustive list of the types of cash benefits that could lead to a determination that a person is likely to become primarily dependent on the government for subsistence, and thus, a public charge. Receipt of any such cash benefits not listed above will continue to be assessed under the “totality of the circumstances” analysis described above.

Yep. But I think that the current administration missed the memo on it...