Trump proposal would make it harder for legal immigrants to gain citizenship (merged)

[AdnanS 82]

Someone please provide me clear answer having Obama Care (ACA) will not effect my chances of Citizenship if I purchased it within 5 years of my Green Card? Because when I was signing up and being in Illinois it's not considered a Public Charge, and what Trump is doing is making it a public charge?

[ms80 22]

4 minutes ago, bananite said:

So it's ok for Trump to do it but not Clinton, is what you are saying. 

 

5 minutes ago, bananite said:

So it's ok for Trump to do it but not Clinton, is what you are saying. 

Hahaahah don’t waste your time for real 😂😂

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

2 minutes ago, ms80 said:

I don’t know what Hilary has to do with this convo but I get Trumpster like to brIng the hilary card when they are out of arguments 🙈anyway your role model not only did He slept with porn star and pay them to silence them but He also grab women by the p”@:; i know you might say it’s only locker room talk lol  you are very hilarious yeah you should definitely be out for the day 👍🏻

 

This is why you can't talk to a liberal. They are brain dead. You talked about Trump's pastor friend, so I compare to Hillary's assuming that you voted for her. So again you compare the two, no ones better than the other; but I'd take a pastor friend over a sexual predator any day. 

 

 

[AshMarty 360]

4 hours ago, Jaquelly said:

I'm not subservient. Also, you're barking up the wrong tree with me. My great grandmother came to the US in 1921. She was processed through Ellis Island with her mother, two brothers and sister. They lived through the depression and fought hard to make their dream work for them. I am a descendant of immigrants and am incredibly proud.

 All this immigration talk makes me laugh because my great grandmother was Cherokee/ Native American. I am sure her stories of immigration are quite different. Haha....History has a funny way of being a one sided story. Haha. 

 

 

 

 

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

4 minutes ago, bananite said:

So it's ok for Trump to do it but not Clinton, is what you are saying. 

 

The affair was long before he even ran for presidency. Clinton's was in office. There is a huge difference. If you don't see it, then you need some help. We knew Trump was a play boy, what billionaire isn't. 

[bananite 67]

2 minutes ago, Jaquelly said:

No.

 

What I was saying is that placing blame on the wives for their husband's action is a very crappy thing to do.

That's exactly what I was saying...maybe you didn't read the context of who I was replying to?

 

They were blaming Hillary for staying with her cheating husband, and then saying Trump cheating was 'no big deal' and 'actually gave him points with some people'. I was quoting him when he was saying "she stayed with someone who cheated on her" but was referring to Hillary, so I joked and asked if he meant Melania. Of course it is not the wife's fault. I was calling him out on his hypocrisy.

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Just now, bananite said:

That's exactly what I was saying...maybe you didn't read the context of who I was replying to?

 

They were blaming Hillary for staying with her cheating husband, and then saying Trump cheating was 'no big deal' and 'actually gave him points with some people'. I was quoting him when he was saying "she stayed with someone who cheated on her" but was referring to Hillary, so I joked and asked if he meant Melania. Of course it is not the wife's fault. I was calling him out on his hypocrisy.

I don't think that being on the attack is the best way to get your point across. You've done nothing but be incredibly stubborn with people throughout this discussion, which is your own business, but if you're actively looking to help people see your opinion about the current situation, it's best handled by compromise and kindness. 

For example, assuming that I like Donald Trump was a mistake. Also, assuming you think that I like Bill Clinton is a mistake. LMAO

[bananite 67]

2 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

This is why you can't talk to a liberal. They are brain dead. You talked about Trump's pastor friend, so I compare to Hillary's assuming that you voted for her. So again you compare the two, no ones better than the other; but I'd take a pastor friend over a sexual predator any day. 

  

 

Hahahaha. Did you know trump has an entire wikipedia page about his sexual misconduct allegations? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

1 minute ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

The affair was long before he even ran for presidency. Clinton's was in office. There is a huge difference. If you don't see it, then you need some help. We knew Trump was a play boy, what billionaire isn't. 

You guys are absolutely ridiculous. You keep inventing new and idiotic ways to say "it was bad when Clinton/Obama did something but when Trump does it, it's great!" You employ the very definition of a double standard. 

[bananite 67]

4 minutes ago, Jaquelly said:

I don't think that being on the attack is the best way to get your point across. You've done nothing but be incredibly stubborn with people throughout this discussion, which is your own business, but if you're actively looking to help people see your opinion about the current situation, it's best handled by compromise and kindness. 

For example, assuming that I like Donald Trump was a mistake. Also, assuming you think that I like Bill Clinton is a mistake. LMAO

...it wasn't an attack. It was pointing out his hypocrisy...

[ms80 22]

13 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

The affair was long before he even ran for presidency. Clinton's was in office. There is a huge difference. If you don't see it, then you need some help. We knew Trump was a play boy, what billionaire isn't. 

Thought you would be out for the day? 😂 again who told you I voted for Hilary?? i could have casted my vote for bernie or even abstain  😳😳 so again you blaming Hilary for her husband’s actions but Not Trump because He is a so called Billionaire??? How do you even know he is a real billionaire, did he show you his tax return? 😂 so according to your logic a billionaire can cheat and grab women by their 😺 without  their consent because of the money they own !  I mean you really make no sens ! 

Edited August 7, 2018 by ms80

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Just now, bananite said:

...it wasn't an attack. It was pointing out his hypocrisy...

 

Is it possible that people have different opinions than you do, and that is part of what makes America so great? We're all allowed to have different beliefs, and the freedom to talk about them. You can call him an idiot, tell him that's his viewpoints are wrong, even laugh at him.

 

But the more you attack what they say, the more you dig your feet in and give people the impression that your fingers are in your ears and that you're screaming LALALALALA the more they're going to rebuff you, laugh at your insults and make you even angrier.

 

Because they just don't care. Just like you swear you don't. 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

10 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

The affair was long before he even ran for presidency. Clinton's was in office. There is a huge difference. If you don't see it, then you need some help. We knew Trump was a play boy, what billionaire isn't. 

Bill Gates? 

[ms80 22]

7 minutes ago, bananite said:

Hahahaha. Did you know trump has an entire wikipedia page about his sexual misconduct allegations? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

You guys are absolutely ridiculous. You keep inventing new and idiotic ways to say "it was bad when Clinton/Obama did something but when Trump does it, it's great!" You employ the very definition of a double standard. 

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[bananite 67]

Just now, Jaquelly said:

 

Is it possible that people have different opinions than you do, and that is part of what makes America so great? We're all allowed to have different beliefs, and the freedom to talk about them. You can call him an idiot, tell him that's his viewpoints are wrong, even laugh at him.

 

But the more you attack what they say, the more you dig your feet in and give people the impression that your fingers are in your ears and that you're screaming LALALALALA the more they're going to rebuff you, laugh at your insults and make you even angrier.

 

Because they just don't care. Just like you swear you don't. 

And if they say "Clinton cheated, he's a horrible role model" and "Trump cheated but it's no big deal and actually makes him more likable to some", there's nothing inside you that wants to raise your hand a little bit and say "hey, that's kinda a double standard"?

[NikV 44]

1 hour ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

Only gotten to do a layover in Minnesota before on the way to North Dakota but always wanted to go venturing and drive through the state. One day I will get the chance. I'm from Oregon originally (note the duck below haha) but man that state has changed in the last 10 years so much. Still beautiful; just not so much politically now.

data shows that texas is changing too. I do not necessarily support all liberal policies but then again I do not support current administration and the people who want to suppress other folks.

https://qz.com/1189388/conservative-californians-are-moving-to-texas-for-the-home-prices-and-politics/