Trump proposal would make it harder for legal immigrants to gain citizenship (merged)

[King-north 0]

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/latino/400657-trump-proposal-would-make-it-harder-for-legal-immigrants-to-gain-citizenship-report%3famp

[King-north 0]

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/latino/400657-trump-proposal-would-make-it-harder-for-legal-immigrants-to-gain-citizenship-report%3famp

[B&Ovi 6]

I saw this article.  Immigrates can't catch a break.  And a word to "The Hill", USCIS stands for US citizenship and Immigration services.  NOT customs and immigration services.

[Roel 7,192]

Nothing new? Claiming certain benefits was always forbidden for green card holder and would affect naturalization process. 

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

It's one of those "we have to make a new 'law' to enforce already existing ones because no one wants to enforce them" scenarios. Still the same thing as before and reasonable.

[CarlHamilton 252]

6 minutes ago, B&Ovi said:

I saw this article.  Immigrates can't catch a break.  And a word to "The Hill", USCIS stands for US citizenship and Immigration services.  NOT customs and immigration services.

This is the least of the inaccuracies in the article, but it does reflect the author's understanding of immigration law (or lack thereof).  The concern appears to be about the "public charge" definition, although you wouldn't know it from the article itself.  Changes to this have been percolating for months, and have been discussed here, but they would NOT apply to citizenship applications, because there is no public charge bar to naturalization.  As for the effect on visas and adjustment of status applications, the devil is in the details, and the details aren't public yet.  If and when the proposed changes move forward, a notice of proposed rulemaking will be published in the Federal Register and there will be a 90-day period for public comment.  We can hopefully get a more thorough media analysis of it at that point, although I'm not holding my breath.  In the meantime, keep calm and carry on.   

[crazyworld 54]

Quoting myself from another thread lol - Saw this this morning and makes me mad. I was on Obamacare before I married my wife and she was on it with me for a year (never used it) until I got health insurance from my new employer.  Preying this will not effects us since we are now applying for removing of conditions for the 10 year green card. In the future once my mum passes on, we are planing to move to England to be with her family for awhile but that will not be for a few more years at least. 

[King-north 0]

Yes It looks old one but this time they included citizenship and obamacare also. So if someone uses subsidies which are perfectly legal for LPR’s or they use medicaid after living 5 years in US. They would be denied. I check healthcare.gov they still mention getting health insurance in these two form won’t effect getting green card or citizenship.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

This is an extremely poorly written article.  

 

[Unidentified 2,930]

I don't get why they present this as something new. When we come here we have to prove that we won't be a public charge. This is the consequence of becoming a public charge.  

[CarlHamilton 252]

3 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

I don't get why they present this as something new. When we come here we have to prove that we won't be a public charge. This is the consequence of becoming a public charge.  

There still won't be a public charge bar to naturalization, that would require an act of Congress.  We're still talking about this part: "When we come here we have to prove that we won't be a public charge."  The proposed changes pertain to what exactly this means.  Reporters are conflating a bunch of very different concepts. 

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

Can anyone explain who these legal immigrants who don't have Green Cards are? (1st paragraph says it will be more difficult for legal immigrants to get Green cards)

Can anyone explain the 2nd paragraph?

[Unidentified 2,930]

1 minute ago, missileman said:

Can anyone explain who these legal immigrants who don't have Green Cards are? (1st paragraph says it will be more difficult for legal immigrants to get Green cards)

Can anyone explain the 2nd paragraph?

K1 applicants possibly?

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

K1 applicants possibly?

Maybe so.......

[CarlHamilton 252]

10 minutes ago, missileman said:

Maybe so.......

The Hill is basically summarizing another article from NBC (linked to in the second paragraph).  This is a longer but equally ill-informed piece built around the example of a Haitian gentleman who used a fake passport to obtain his green card. Reading about it made me think of George Costanza.  "Was that wrong?  Should I not have done that?"

Edited August 7, 2018 by CarlHamilton