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[Randyandyuni 2,682]

1 hour ago, Webdevman said:

Because you point out one example of an Asian when we have groups here like neo Nazis and the KKK.

 

I really don't feel any sympathy for supposedly offended white people. Being Caucasian myself I see this as pure bs. Further more, the way some of these Asians and others are treated here I don't blame then for being a little bitter.

Just No ....

 

She has a years long record of making racist comments about whites, I personally don't believe she is a racist just doesn't understand what she is spouting as a response to racism is in itself racist, it's the old two-wrongs do not make a right.

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We do have neo Nazis and KKK, they are the fringe, the extreme 10% of the far right, I doubt you will find most conservatives supporting them, in her case, her position on the BOD for the newspaper affords her credibility beyond her demonstrated ability to control her emotions. I think she is a great technology pundit, i question her self-control.

 

It is not being butt-hurt by her commentary that people raise a fuss, it's because she has published such ####### on social media for an extended period of time, if a white male said comparable inflammatory comments the body would still be burning and most likely they are unemployed.

You cannot dismiss people being offended when you defend the right of a different demographic to be offended by the stated or written word.

 

Hate speech regardless of who the intended victim is, is still hate speech and should be abhorrent to all of us, not partially acceptable when we consider the victim a legitimate target because they are a less affronted group.

 

You state the law for immigration and voting are racist, the current administration did not enact those laws, he merely chose to enforce the existing laws, I believe he took an oath to do that. Do I agree with everything currently done, no, but I can say that for every administration back to Nixon

 

[Webdevman 93]

7 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

Just No ....

 

She has a years long record of making racist comments about whites, I personally don't believe she is a racist just doesn't understand what she is spouting as a response to racism is in itself racist, it's the old two-wrongs do not make a right.

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We do have neo Nazis and KKK, they are the fringe, the extreme 10% of the far right, I doubt you will find most conservatives supporting them, in her case, her position on the BOD for the newspaper affords her credibility beyond her demonstrated ability to control her emotions. I think she is a great technology pundit, i question her self-control.

 

It is not being butt-hurt by her commentary that people raise a fuss, it's because she has published such ####### on social media for an extended period of time, if a white male said comparable inflammatory comments the body would still be burning and most likely they are unemployed.

You cannot dismiss people being offended when you defend the right of a different demographic to be offended by the stated or written word.

 

Hate speech regardless of who the intended victim is, is still hate speech and should be abhorrent to all of us, not partially acceptable when we consider the victim a legitimate target because they are a less affronted group.

 

You state the law for immigration and voting are racist, the current administration did not enact those laws, he merely chose to enforce the existing laws, I believe he took an oath to do that. Do I agree with everything currently done, no, but I can say that for every administration back to Nixon

 

No, I do not dismiss her. I know nothing about her and have not read her comments aside from those posted here. This was my point. Using her comments as a sort of opposite of Alex Jones is just ridiculous.

 

And no, this administration is not just enforcing immigration laws already on the books. What they are doing with people trying to file for asylum is terrible as is their no tolerance policy that has separated parents from their children. What they are working on right now is even worse which will push out many legal immigrants. I really find it hard to believe that there are so many people on an immigration site defending an administration that would deport almost all of you unless you are white that is.

[smilesammich 10,727]

so it's not that she's racist that's offensive, it's offensive that she has no 'emotional control'. how can you be offended by a perceived lack of emotional control on twitter but support a PRESIDENT who exhibits zero lack of emotional control on twitter? makes no sense.

 

do any of you think that maybe the existence of nazis/skinheads/racist twitter trolls aren't something that white people actually have to deal with on any meaningful level so maybe white people shouldn't try to decide how minorities react to nazi/skinhead/racist twitter troll provocation?

 

 

 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

so it's not that she's racist that's offensive, it's offensive that she has no 'emotional control'. how can you be offended by a perceived lack of emotional control on twitter but support a PRESIDENT who exhibits zero lack of emotional control on twitter? makes no sense.

 

do any of you think that maybe the existence of nazis/skinheads/racist twitter trolls aren't something that white people actually have to deal with on any meaningful level so maybe white people shouldn't try to decide how minorities react to nazi/skinhead/racist twitter troll provocation?

 

 

 

Lol ... Seriously?

 

I should withhold my rejection of a rude vulgar person because I am white and not the target of her demons?

 

When she singles out the KKK, skin heads and racist Twitter trolls I am ok with that, by her choosing to stereotype all white males as equal to your examples of her intended target I cry foul.

 

She is treating all members of a race as equal (whether as an example or whatever), she is using the tactics of her tormenters as a response, I find that hypocritical, I am fine if you don't. 

 

If you choose to accept her behavior as OK you condone her behavior and in turn allow it to be an acceptable behavior, not solving the problem but magnifying it.

 

Do not confuse my condemnation of her as support for the KKK or neo Nazis,  I hold them in the same light as her, mis directed, displaced and socially awkward, in need of some therapy to resolve their dysfunction.

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Randyandyuni said:

Lol ... Seriously?

 

I should withhold my rejection of a rude vulgar person because I am white and not the target of her demons?

 

When she singles out the KKK, skin heads and racist Twitter trolls I am ok with that, by her choosing to stereotype all white males as equal to your examples of her intended target I cry foul.

 

She is treating all members of a race as equal (whether as an example or whatever), she is using the tactics of her tormenters as a response, I find that hypocritical, I am fine if you don't. 

 

If you choose to accept her behavior as OK you condone her behavior and in turn allow it to be an acceptable behavior, not solving the problem but magnifying it.

 

Do not confuse my condemnation of her as support for the KKK or neo Nazis,  I hold them in the same light as her, mis directed, displaced and socially awkward, in need of some therapy to resolve their dysfunction.

i don't understand your position, do you think she's a racist saying racist things, or do you think she lacked 'emotional control' in her chosen response to racists on twitter?

 

the president is a rude vulgar person, why don't you reject him? from following this thread it appears to me that many of you take more offense to sarah joeng's years old tweets than you do alex jones ongoing attacks on the parents of murdered children. the reality is that infowars isn't going anywhere, alex jones is using his ban to say 'look i told you so, the deep state is silencing me, please buy red pill supplements' and sarah joeng is going to work at nytimes, more than likely still have to deal with death threats from the right and racist remarks on twitter (but now she'll know what her 'appropriate' responses are limited to), and write tech for a living.

 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

My responses on this forum have been directed towards several comments that implied any derogatory comments directed towards whites should be acceptable because we have not been exposed to widespread racism.

 

My responses were intended to state my opininion that racist speech whether racist in intent or voice is wrong.

 

I have stated I do not believe her intent was to be racist while I believe her words were racist.

 

I don't support Trump, didn't vote him, I do however support the presidency, as such I will support him.

 

Where have I been inconsistent in my statements?

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Randyandyuni said:

My responses on this forum have been directed towards several comments that implied any derogatory comments directed towards whites should be acceptable because we have not been exposed to widespread racism.

 

My responses were intended to state my opininion that racist speech whether racist in intent or voice is wrong.

 

I have stated I do not believe her intent was to be racist while I believe her words were racist.

 

I don't support Trump, didn't vote him, I do however support the presidency, as such I will support him.

 

Where have I been inconsistent in my statements?

i didn't say you were being inconsistent, i said i didn't understand your position. 

i do honestly believe that there is no reason for white people to be offended by sarah's tweets, especially if you understand why she was saying what she said. white people do not experience racism on any level in this country, anyone that says otherwise is simply trying to play victim and minimize actual racism minorities experience on a daily basis in this country. 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

Ok, I'll simplify it

 

Her message is ok her delivery is not

 

If she wants acceptance of what she's saying she shouldn't be inflammatory she is self-blocking the people she is trying to reform

[smilesammich 10,727]

7 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

Ok, I'll simplify it

 

Her message is ok her delivery is not

 

If she wants acceptance of what she's saying she shouldn't be inflammatory she is self-blocking the people she is trying to reform

i think she was responding to the racists harassing her on twitter, not trying to reform all the white people.

but like it was pointed out before, twitter has nothing to do with this. apple, youtube, and facebook are fully within their right to boot alex jones. of course alex is going to use the banning to his advantage, if anyone has gone to infowars currently he's having a field day with the 'i told you so's' (and there's a "fight the bullies, save the internet, save infowars super sale" !!)

it also seems alex now loooooves kayne west. LOL.

Edited August 10, 2018 by smilesammich

[yuna628 9,710]

37 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i think she was responding to the racists harassing her on twitter, not trying to reform all the white people.

but like it was pointed out before, twitter has nothing to do with this. apple, youtube, and facebook are fully within their right to boot alex jones. of course alex is going to use the banning to his advantage, if anyone has gone to infowars currently he's having a field day with the 'i told you so's' (and there's a "fight the bullies, save the internet, save infowars super sale" !!)

it also seems alex now loooooves kayne west. LOL.

Ah Alex always was the biggest snowflake in existence.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

46 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i think she was responding to the racists harassing her on twitter, not trying to reform all the white people.

but like it was pointed out before, twitter has nothing to do with this. apple, youtube, and facebook are fully within their right to boot alex jones. of course alex is going to use the banning to his advantage, if anyone has gone to infowars currently he's having a field day with the 'i told you so's' (and there's a "fight the bullies, save the internet, save infowars super sale" !!)

it also seems alex now loooooves kayne west. LOL.

again I am not defending him or infowars, I couldn't care less about him or Kanye West

 

my comments were to say her choice of response was not responsible regardless of provocation, and she is not commenting on her attackers she is attacking all whites unless I missed something, I am responding to her defenders saying she is correct in her attacks, not her reason for making stupid statments

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

again I am not defending him or infowars, I couldn't care less about him or Kanye West

 

my comments were to say her choice of response was not responsible regardless of provocation, and she is not commenting on her attackers she is attacking all whites unless I missed something, I am responding to her defenders saying she is correct in her attacks, not her reason for making stupid statments

her attacks on 'all whites' were in response to her attackers.

it's twitter, i'm not sure if you're familiar but you're going way too hard on this idea of responsibility to a dignified response.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

20 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

her attacks on 'all whites' were in response to her attackers.

it's twitter, i'm not sure if you're familiar but you're going way too hard on this idea of responsibility to a dignified response.

does not attacking all because of the actions a few go against everything you have been preaching on here for years

[smilesammich 10,727]

7 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

does not attacking all because of the actions a few go against everything you have been preaching on here for years

i don't consider her tweets attacks, i do not feel attacked by her tweets at all.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

33 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

her attacks on 'all whites' were in response to her attackers.

it's twitter, i'm not sure if you're familiar but you're going way too hard on this idea of responsibility to a dignified response.

Perhaps I don't know proper etiquette for Twitter, I have limited exposure, I just find it odd she gets a free pass for her commentary because she is a minority, personally, I would think if you find something so abhorrent to generate such anger your response would be tempered and not looking for an eye for an eye retribution. It is alien to my nature