Transit Union Refuses to Bring White Nationalists to 'Unite the Right' Rally

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

I generally don’t, but many here do.  Are you saying the SPLC is wrong?  To me it seems like there are two leftist groups protesting each other.  Maybe it is a resultant of the identity politics the Democrats promote.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/richard-bertrand-spencer-0

[Dashinka 24,759]

5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/richard-bertrand-spencer-0

Doesn’t really say he is a right wing nut.  Considering his political views align with Bernie and the rest of the socialists I am inclined to label him a leftist with extreme views.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Doesn’t really say he is a right wing nut.  Considering his political views align with Bernie and the rest of the socialists I am inclined to label him a leftist with extreme views.

which of spencer's views align with bernie? southern poverty law center explicitly states 'alt right white nationalist'.

[Dashinka 24,759]

8 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

which of spencer's views align with bernie? southern poverty law center explicitly states 'alt right white nationalist'.

Alt right, the new extreme left!

 

The SPLC really only covers his extremist racist views, they do not really touch on his political or economic views.  I never said he was not a racist.

 

1. He badmouths capitalism regularly and promotes Bernie Sanders-style healthcare.

Spencer spouts common leftist mantras, such as: capitalism is evil and exploitative, and big corporations are out to get the little guy. While Spencer does not explicitly acknowledge it, he is a socialist at heart, even advocating that the Right should adopt most of Bernie Sanders’ platform on universal healthcare and other economic issues.

2. He believes individualism and freedom are stupid ideas.

The American right’s ideology is predicated on the freedom of the individual to grow and thrive on his/her own without government intervention. The left, lacking faith in individualism, tends to think people need their hands held by the state and their freedoms restricted. Spencer stated at a recent speaking event at Auburn University that individualism and freedom were stupid concepts. He offers little rationale for his views, which could stem from his belief in racial collectivism.

3. He praises big government programs on a variety of issues.

Along with his advocacy of universal healthcare, Spencer offers big government programs to reinvent public transportation, solve climate issues, and forgive student debt. Even if any of these programs helped anything, which is doubtful, where would the money come from? Presumably higher taxes and higher deficits.

4. It’s a tactic of the left to play identity politics.

The right accepts and celebrates the idea that American and western culture is the greatest culture in the world. We are happy to encourage well-meaning and legal foreigners to assimilate into our culture in order for them to enjoy the benefits of pursing the American ideal. Richard Spencer, on the other hand, rejects the possibility that people either want to or should integrate with other cultures, as cultures tend to oppress each other. So in response to the left’s hard playing of minority racial grievances, Spencer uses the exact same logic to promote white racial grievances.

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/16491/4-reasons-why-richard-spencer-racist-leftist-zack-miley

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Alt right, the new extreme left!

 

The SPLC really only covers his extremist racist views, they do not really touch on his political or economic views.  I never said he was not a racist.

 

1. He badmouths capitalism regularly and promotes Bernie Sanders-style healthcare.

Spencer spouts common leftist mantras, such as: capitalism is evil and exploitative, and big corporations are out to get the little guy. While Spencer does not explicitly acknowledge it, he is a socialist at heart, even advocating that the Right should adopt most of Bernie Sanders’ platform on universal healthcare and other economic issues.

2. He believes individualism and freedom are stupid ideas.

The American right’s ideology is predicated on the freedom of the individual to grow and thrive on his/her own without government intervention. The left, lacking faith in individualism, tends to think people need their hands held by the state and their freedoms restricted. Spencer stated at a recent speaking event at Auburn University that individualism and freedom were stupid concepts. He offers little rationale for his views, which could stem from his belief in racial collectivism.

3. He praises big government programs on a variety of issues.

Along with his advocacy of universal healthcare, Spencer offers big government programs to reinvent public transportation, solve climate issues, and forgive student debt. Even if any of these programs helped anything, which is doubtful, where would the money come from? Presumably higher taxes and higher deficits.

4. It’s a tactic of the left to play identity politics.

The right accepts and celebrates the idea that American and western culture is the greatest culture in the world. We are happy to encourage well-meaning and legal foreigners to assimilate into our culture in order for them to enjoy the benefits of pursing the American ideal. Richard Spencer, on the other hand, rejects the possibility that people either want to or should integrate with other cultures, as cultures tend to oppress each other. So in response to the left’s hard playing of minority racial grievances, Spencer uses the exact same logic to promote white racial grievances.

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/16491/4-reasons-why-richard-spencer-racist-leftist-zack-miley

 

 

like i said before, the daily wire is trying to spin richard spencer's views. richard spencer is actually the dude who coined the phrase 'alt right'

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

I thought all forms of profiling were unacceptable?

With the MDL rights depend on if you agree with their viewpoints or not. Kinda like the ol commies of Russia 

[Dashinka 24,759]

55 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

like i said before, the daily wire is trying to spin richard spencer's views. richard spencer is actually the dude who coined the phrase 'alt right'

Sure, because ‘alt left’ didn’t sound good.  Spencer is so far right, he is actually left!

Edited August 7, 2018 by Bill & Katya

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sure, because ‘alt left’ didn’t sound good.  Spencer is so far right, he is actually left!

obviously, you can believe whatever you like. doesn't change reality.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

What I have learned about the left in the last few days

 

 

If you find someones views offensive it ok to

 

Profile them

Punch them

Deny them use of Public Transportation

Censor them

I remember reading about a movement like this that came to be in the 1920's

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

What I have learned about the left in the last few days

 

 

If you find someones views offensive it ok to

 

Profile them

Punch them

Deny them use of Public Transportation

Censor them

I remember reading about a movement like this that came to be in the 1920's

you haven't been taking very good notes.

[Dashinka 24,759]

12 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

What I have learned about the left in the last few days

 

 

If you find someones views offensive it ok to

 

Profile them

Punch them

Deny them use of Public Transportation

Censor them

I remember reading about a movement like this that came to be in the 1920's

In Italy?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

In Italy?

I thought it was Germany but what do I know 

[smilesammich 10,727]

47 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

In Italy?

 

43 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I thought it was Germany but what do I know 

you guys are way off, the unite the right rally is taking place in dc, this weekend.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

6 hours ago, Unidentified said:

Should it really be legal and permitted to walk around and say people of certain characteristics should die? 

 

In America, yes.  We have constitutionally protected free speech.  Protected free speech includes "hate" speech.  I know it is a hard concept for Europeans to get their minds around.  It is a value I'd lay my life down for and I hope that any other citizen would too.

[Unidentified 2,930]

28 minutes ago, N-o-l-a said:

 

In America, yes.  We have constitutionally protected free speech.  Protected free speech includes "hate" speech.  I know it is a hard concept for Europeans to get their minds around.  It is a value I'd lay my life down for and I hope that any other citizen would too.

Yeah we Europeans know what that mean. See my post about nazi's in Sweden. I just asked if it "should" be okay. I would lay down my life for free speech but I am not laying my life down for a nazi saying he is going to kill Jews.