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kirikiristar   8

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I have a company with a job offer willing to expedite my EAD. However, I dont want to actually work there because my current TN job makes a little more money.

 

Is this a plausible idea? Take the offer, then say no after EAD is expedited? (Yes I know itll look really bad to the company) but I really need the EAD/AP

TN to GC: AOS through marriage

 

Paperwork received: 4/9/18

Biometrics complete: 5/7/18

Ready to be scheduled for interview: 7/16/18

EAD/AP Approved: 9/4/2018

EAD/AP Card Received: 9/10/2018

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aside from being  a REALLY shitty thing to do, and possible fraud of some variety, its possible the company expedites your EAD, that you are obligated to work for them until your get your greencard 

 

really not sure, but it seems it would quasi fall under work permit visas where its the company 'keeping' you here. 

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10/14/21 (havent heard anything... when do i start to get worried?)

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Without knowing the circumstances I don't know if it would work or not to get the EAD sooner, but it's not cool at all. You're causing that company to use their time and resources to help you out, only to stiff them afterword. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but if I was that employer I'd be fuming.

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1 minute ago, shumway1756 said:

Did I read correctly that you don't have EAD yet, but you have a "current" job? How does that work?

 

Without knowing the circumstances I don't know if it would work or not to get the EAD sooner, but it's not cool at all. You're causing that company to use their time and resources to help you out, only to stiff them afterword. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but if I was that employer I'd be fuming.

He/she would be adjusting status from another type of visa - like H1B that allowed them to live/work in the US.

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Well, it could count as fraud since you're not planning on taking the job and expediting EAD to do so. Also, just because they approve EAD doesn't mean they will expedite AP. Outside of ruining your name with the company, you can ruin your name in the local area and one day, those recruiters will move companies. From a business perspective, it's an awful decision. From an immigration one, it's fraud.

Is getting an early EAD worth getting in trouble with fraud from USCIS and potentially losing your immigration benefits overall?

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geowrian Grand Master

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What would be the basis for the expedite exactly? Typically a job offer expedite is done under the "financial loss" category. If you claim to experience a financial loss when you don't intend on taking the job in the first place, that sounds like a misrepresentation to me.

And it's really bad form overall...

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

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9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

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K-1

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You are asking VJers for advice on how to scam USCIS? Seriously?

 

Translation: Can I use this dumb company's offer of a job to hoodwink USCIS that I will lose the offer, have them expedite my EAD, and then have a wry, cynical laugh as I pocket my EAD and send a one-liner to the company telling them I rescind my acceptance of the job?

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[06/01, 2012]  - DAY 099  (day 0099) 2-year Conditional GC in hand
[05/05, 2014]  - DAY 001  (day 0802) (ROC) Mailed package to Vermont Service Center via USPS overnight

[05/14, 2014]  - DAY 009  (day 0811) Received NOA1 (GC Extended for 1 year)

[01/14, 2016]  - DAY 620  (day 1421) 10-year GC in hand

[02/22, 2017]  - DAY 001  (day 1826) (N-400) Mailed package to Lewisville, TX, via USPS overnight

[01/10, 2018]  - DAY 323  (day 2149) (N-400) Naturalization Oath Ceremony (5 years, 10 months, 19 days)

[01/10, 2018]  - DAY 001  (day 2149) (US Passport) Applied for US Passport, regular processing

01/25, 2018]  - DAY 015  (day 2164) (US Passport) Passport in hand (5 years, 11 months, 3 days from start of Journey.)

 

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[11/21, 2013] - Day 153 SSN and 10-year GC in hand

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Unethical and possibly misrepresentation, imo.

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22 minutes ago, GreatDane said:

Well, it could count as fraud since you're not planning on taking the job and expediting EAD to do so. Also, just because they approve EAD doesn't mean they will expedite AP. Outside of ruining your name with the company, you can ruin your name in the local area and one day, those recruiters will move companies. From a business perspective, it's an awful decision. From an immigration one, it's fraud.

Is getting an early EAD worth getting in trouble with fraud from USCIS and potentially losing your immigration benefits overall?

Thanks,  I didnt think about it that way. Definitely not going down that route. 

 

Thank you for wording it kindly,  some responses were pretty rude 

TN to GC: AOS through marriage

 

Paperwork received: 4/9/18

Biometrics complete: 5/7/18

Ready to be scheduled for interview: 7/16/18

EAD/AP Approved: 9/4/2018

EAD/AP Card Received: 9/10/2018

Interview Notice: ???????????

 

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3 hours ago, kirikiristar said:

I have a company with a job offer willing to expedite my EAD. However, I dont want to actually work there because my current TN job makes a little more money.

 

Is this a plausible idea? Take the offer, then say no after EAD is expedited? (Yes I know itll look really bad to the company) but I really need the EAD/AP

Why can't you just have your current employer put something in writing? Let them write a letter saying that they want to keep you and that you will need your EAD to be able to keep working for them. Then you can request an expedite under the "financial loss" category, because you would lose your job if you will not receive your EAD. To me, this seems to be the easier and more honest thing to do.

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If you’re willing to do that, I wonder what else you would do just to get your green card?  Be careful what you wish for!  

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More importantly a ToS violation?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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