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4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Is there a reason you use Gallup or all the other polls apart from Rasmussen?  Considering they had Obama 5-10% higher for the his eight years may be due to underlying bias to the Left.

 

  I don't use any polls as a general rule. If I was going to do so, I wouldn't constantly use the one poll that's been accused of being a shill for conservatives for the last 10 years. 

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Corporate leaders and lobbies (Koch brothers & co, the Chamber of Commerce, etc) are pushing for more immigration which depresses wages, especially for the working class, since a higher amount of people compete for the same number of jobs, which only serves to drive up profits for the same corporate businesses. This is why both parties used to be very weak on immigration, and which is why Trump won a landslide victory against the corrupt open borders establishment. The other corporate exploitation that affects working class Americans is the outsourcing of factories and/or jobs to other countries, where they save more money at the expense of the now unemployed American worker. This is one of the reasons Trump was popular in middle America, where people have lost their livelihoods to Globalism. 

 

Using Protectionism, which is innately Leftist (as well as caring for workers' wages) he has managed to bring both factories and jobs back to the US, which is evident by the historically low unemployment.

 

Trump has his faults, but he's been doing a good job of making America great again so far. There are a few things he could have done better, but I guess all in due time. 

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5 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Personally I'm more interested in the poll that has a track record of being accurate. Not one that has a track record of matching other polls. I really wouldn't put much stock in a poll that said Hillary was going to win by a wide margin for example. It appears as though Rasmussen called the election correctly when many other polls were way off. Accuracy matters more than matching all the other polls does.

 

   Then you probably want to find something besides Rasmussen. I would suggest using an aggregate if polls are something that is important to you.

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1 minute ago, Ironclad43 said:

Corporate leaders and lobbies (Koch brothers & co, the Chamber of Commerce, etc) are pushing for more immigration which depresses wages, especially for the working class, since a higher amount of people compete for the same number of jobs, which only serves to drive up profits for the same corporate businesses. This is why both parties used to be very weak on immigration, and which is why Trump won a landslide victory against the corrupt open borders establishment. The other corporate exploitation that affects working class Americans is the outsourcing of factories and/or jobs to other countries, where they save more money at the expense of the now unemployed American worker. This is one of the reasons Trump was popular in middle America, where people have lost their livelihoods to Globalism. 

 

Using Protectionism, which is innately Leftist (as well as caring for workers' wages) he has managed to bring both factories and jobs back to the US, which is evident by the historically low unemployment.

 

Trump has his faults, but he's been doing a good job of making America great again so far. There are a few things he could have done better, but I guess all in due time. 

you lost me at 'corrupt open borders establishment' another knee slapper.

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

who within the establishment has championed open borders?

Anyone who has used the term "undocumented immigrant" to describe illegal aliens or pushed for Amnesty, so basically the Mainstream Media, half the GOP and the entirety of the Democratic Party, as well as the Chamber of Commerce and the Koch Brothers, off the top of my head. They all champion open borders and unreciprocated free trade, to the detriment of the American nation. 

 

One look at the Brown Wave that is tiding over the Democrats headed by Ocasio-Cortez, should give you enough of an idea what kind of future they want for the USA.

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6 minutes ago, Ironclad43 said:

Anyone who has used the term "undocumented immigrant" to describe illegal aliens or pushed for Amnesty, so basically the Mainstream Media, half the GOP and the entirety of the Democratic Party, as well as the Chamber of Commerce and the Koch Brothers, off the top of my head. They all champion open borders and unreciprocated free trade, to the detriment of the American nation. 

 

One look at the Brown Wave that is tiding over the Democrats headed by Ocasio-Cortez, should give you enough of an idea what kind of future they want for the USA.

oh, so you're using an improper definition of open borders. makes sense now. 

brown wave? i've not heard that term before. 

Posted
27 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

who within the establishment has championed open borders?

Rich republicans want illegals because they work cheap and hard

 

Leftist Dems want illegals cause because they need to supplement their minority base. If the dems ever started losing the black vote they would not exist. 

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Just now, Ironclad43 said:

They say it'll be a blue wave over America, but it's a brown wave over their party.

they say blue wave, because democrats = blue

but the brown wave bit? nah, don't get it.

Posted
1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Rich republicans want illegals because they work cheap and hard

 

Leftist Dems want illegals cause because they need to supplement their minority base. If the dems ever started losing the black vote they would not exist. 

nothing to do with open borders.

 

or facts.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

when you have many 10's of 1000's pouring over your border every year and cities that provide sanctuary and benefits, you have defacto open borders.

we don't have open borders, democrats do not run on a platform that seeks open borders. you still haven't presented any facts.

Posted
1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Then you probably want to find something besides Rasmussen. I would suggest using an aggregate if polls are something that is important to you.

Yes like 538 LOL

 

THESE POLLSTERS GOT THE ELECTION RIGHT, ACCORDING TO RCP

 

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/19/these-pollsters-got-the-election-right-according-to-rcp/

 

Rasmussen calls itself most accurate pollster of 2016

 

http://thehill.com/media/306721-rasmussen-calls-itself-most-accurate-pollster-of-2016

 

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