Where does some go from here?

[Marriednow 4]

I do not know how to feel anymore - I thought I would be okay through all of this - even when we kept getting screwed by all of the processes and how they handled our case. First our denial on our K3 and then finding out the reasons were just so out of context and then finding out that our CR1 petition was approved January 31 and should have been in process at the NVC, but my Senator finds out that the CSC erroneously sent it to storage instead of to the NVC! Now we are having to wait even longer for the processing of it. But I still thought I would be okay because my husband and I were together.

I sold everything I own to move to his country to live side by side with my husband until we could return together to the states to start and build out future together. The police and authorities here all told me the same thing - you have nothing to worry about - you can stay here for years, no problem. We did what we were supposed to do and filed my papers here - I went through the interview and the papers were sent off to Rabat for approval stamping - little did we know the man at the Foreigner's Office here requested that I only be given four months. He said we should not have needed any more time than that. We filed all the papers we needed to get my residence permit, which is good for 10 years. But this man screwed us - after two and a half months of waiting - we got our papers back and they only gave me until June 20 to stay here in this country - not a residence permit, only a temporary VISA stamp in my passport. We asked if they will extend it - can we file more papers - the man told us No!

So now not only are we having to endure the American government, but now also the Moroccan government. I do not understand how these people actually sleep at night with their selves - really! My husband and I have shared the last three days now just watching each other and tears falling - we do not even know where to go from here - we both hurt so much more then we can even explain. Both of our families are beside themselves - the hurt is tenfold for all of us!

I am not standing by anymore while the governments of this world continue to do this to innocent people who just try so hard to follow the laws that govern us in life. I am preparing letters/articles to be submitted to any and all media agencies, as well as government agencies. I am not sitting on my hands anymore - it is time we all stand up for our rights and the right to have a process that is fair and just for those that follow the law to do it right. I am so tired of just sitting back and hearing story after story of complete heartbreak in so many people - I really do not understand how so many people in this system over the years have just not done anything to change this. I can not sit back and watch one more person have to bare these atrocities.

Right now I do not even have money to fight this - I have spent every dime I had to fight our own process and denials and on and on, but I will find a way to make this happen, if I have to start walking across America to make a point! I for one can not handle one more hang in there - stay strong comment - I will stay strong by fighting this system and getting the national public to pay attention to what is happening to innocent people who are just trying to love and marry and be happy and do it legally!!

Hi Aicha--Your experience is really frightening to all of us getting ready to go through the Moroccan consulate. It seems that Americans have no rights when it comes to immigration of fiances from there. Be assured you are in my prayers--I wish I could stay with Hamid in Morocco forever!!! Keep the faith....Debbie

[peezey 0]

Americans don't have rights regarding the immigration of another person. The American isn't applying for immigration consideration, why would the American have any rights in the matter?

[~*Dorothy*~ 2]

Aicha,

There is not much that I can say except that I hope that you will find an answer to your prayers and that you will find the right way to solve this horrible situations. I have not spend much time in morocco - total of about 30 days but I have witnessed the enormous amount of corruption - it is truly disgusting and the worse part is that most of the time is just pure jealousy that is behind these actions affecting lives of so many people.

My prayers are with you and your husband.

Stay strong,

Dorothy

[aj1 1]

I pray for you and your love to be together forever soon. I know how hard this process is and yes at times you get tired of being patient and waiting everything out, this process is really hard and emotionally draining. But you are a strong woman and you know that the love you have with your man is real so you will get through this i know that. I will keep you both in my prayers. God bless you.

AJ1

[Caladan 19]

I know that you don't like the idea of leaving Morocco and reentering in order to extend your tourist visa, but you really might need to do it in order to buy yourself more time, no? It would make me very nervous to be in Morocco without a valid visa, so just make sure that you're careful, aicha. Better to hop a ferry to Spain and back to have your visa extended until October and have more time to figure out a course of action than have to deal with the consequences of overstaying your current visa. Good luck to you!

Just wanted to express sympathy and second this. Make sure you keep your end legal; the last thing you need is another hassle at this point. Hang in there; you'll get through this.

[aicha 0]

I know that you don't like the idea of leaving Morocco and reentering in order to extend your tourist visa, but you really might need to do it in order to buy yourself more time, no? It would make me very nervous to be in Morocco without a valid visa, so just make sure that you're careful, aicha. Better to hop a ferry to Spain and back to have your visa extended until October and have more time to figure out a course of action than have to deal with the consequences of overstaying your current visa. Good luck to you!

You are right - leaving my hsuband is not something I want - he is my husband - when I married him I made a decision to be with him, whether it was here or there. The papers we filed were for a residence permit and the man merely put in the papers to request only an extension. I will not stay here illegally - not out to hurt our case in any way - I will do what I am having to do - this will give me a little time to take care of issues at home with my family and maybe get some things started for my fight against this system. I know my hsuband will not be fa

[aicha 0]

SORRY JENN - really sometimes I just hit that wrong button - I have to laugh at myself - it is that silly Arabic keyboard - lol!

You are right - leaving my husband is not something I want - he is my husband - when I married him I made a decision to be with him, whether it was here or there. The papers we filed were for a residence permit and the man merely put in the papers to request only an extension. I will not stay here illegally - not out to hurt our case in any way - I will do what I am having to do - this will give me a little time to take care of issues at home with my family and maybe get some things started for my fight against this system. I know my husband will not be far behind - I pray! Our Senator and the NVC have all agreed to work together on getting our CR1 expedited - now all I have to do is pray the CO opens again soon here.

[aicha 0]

How much could it be to give the guy a little money to extend the visa?

It is not really the point of how much it would be - it is the point that it is not ethically right to do this and I will not be one who condones what is happening here. If I pay this man off - what kind of person does that make me - I am trying to do everything legal - everything right - if I start falling into the illegal class, then all of my words through this would have meant nothing. I understand why people do that - I am just not going to start following that path. I hope you understand what I am saying. My husband and I love each other more than anything in this world, but we will not taint our love or our beliefs by doing things that are just not right - and encouraging these corrupt individuals is just not right. Our doors will open and in the end we will walk away knowing we never compromised our selves to make it happen.

[aicha 0]

I do not know how to feel anymore - I thought I would be okay through all of this - even when we kept getting screwed by all of the processes and how they handled our case. First our denial on our K3 and then finding out the reasons were just so out of context and then finding out that our CR1 petition was approved January 31 and should have been in process at the NVC, but my Senator finds out that the CSC erroneously sent it to storage instead of to the NVC! Now we are having to wait even longer for the processing of it. But I still thought I would be okay because my husband and I were together.

I sold everything I own to move to his country to live side by side with my husband until we could return together to the states to start and build out future together. The police and authorities here all told me the same thing - you have nothing to worry about - you can stay here for years, no problem. We did what we were supposed to do and filed my papers here - I went through the interview and the papers were sent off to Rabat for approval stamping - little did we know the man at the Foreigner's Office here requested that I only be given four months. He said we should not have needed any more time than that. We filed all the papers we needed to get my residence permit, which is good for 10 years. But this man screwed us - after two and a half months of waiting - we got our papers back and they only gave me until June 20 to stay here in this country - not a residence permit, only a temporary VISA stamp in my passport. We asked if they will extend it - can we file more papers - the man told us No!

So now not only are we having to endure the American government, but now also the Moroccan government. I do not understand how these people actually sleep at night with their selves - really! My husband and I have shared the last three days now just watching each other and tears falling - we do not even know where to go from here - we both hurt so much more then we can even explain. Both of our families are beside themselves - the hurt is tenfold for all of us!

I am not standing by anymore while the governments of this world continue to do this to innocent people who just try so hard to follow the laws that govern us in life. I am preparing letters/articles to be submitted to any and all media agencies, as well as government agencies. I am not sitting on my hands anymore - it is time we all stand up for our rights and the right to have a process that is fair and just for those that follow the law to do it right. I am so tired of just sitting back and hearing story after story of complete heartbreak in so many people - I really do not understand how so many people in this system over the years have just not done anything to change this. I can not sit back and watch one more person have to bare these atrocities.

Right now I do not even have money to fight this - I have spent every dime I had to fight our own process and denials and on and on, but I will find a way to make this happen, if I have to start walking across America to make a point! I for one can not handle one more hang in there - stay strong comment - I will stay strong by fighting this system and getting the national public to pay attention to what is happening to innocent people who are just trying to love and marry and be happy and do it legally!!

Hi Aicha--Your experience is really frightening to all of us getting ready to go through the Moroccan consulate. It seems that Americans have no rights when it comes to immigration of fiances from there. Be assured you are in my prayers--I wish I could stay with Hamid in Morocco forever!!! Keep the faith....Debbie

Debbie - thank you for the prayers - I guess if I was just his fiance I could understand them not allowing me to stay very long here, but I am his wife and we did all of the process and the interview for my residence permit, which is supposed to be good for ten years, but the man at the foreigner's office put in our papers to only request an extension and not the actual residence permit. Try not to be scared, just make sure you are prepared for everything! Good luck to you and yours!

Aicha

[aicha 0]

Aicha,

There is not much that I can say except that I hope that you will find an answer to your prayers and that you will find the right way to solve this horrible situations. I have not spend much time in morocco - total of about 30 days but I have witnessed the enormous amount of corruption - it is truly disgusting and the worse part is that most of the time is just pure jealousy that is behind these actions affecting lives of so many people.

My prayers are with you and your husband.

Stay strong,

Dorothy

Dorothy,

You are so correct in your statement, the corruption here is a lot of jealousy issues - I just can not follow that path of condoning what they do here by paying out bribes to get what I want - we will find a way to fix everything and it will be done the right way. My heart goes out so much to those who are continually having to pay out money in bribes for things. Our sister just had a baby and we had to pay money to the nurses just to take care of here and give her medicine - our mom could not even stay at the hospital with her without us having to pay a lot of money to stay, like it was a hotel or something - crazy!

I pray for you and your love to be together forever soon. I know how hard this process is and yes at times you get tired of being patient and waiting everything out, this process is really hard and emotionally draining. But you are a strong woman and you know that the love you have with your man is real so you will get through this i know that. I will keep you both in my prayers. God bless you.

AJ1

Thank you so much for your prayers - we will make it - I believe that with my whole heart and soul!

I know that you don't like the idea of leaving Morocco and reentering in order to extend your tourist visa, but you really might need to do it in order to buy yourself more time, no? It would make me very nervous to be in Morocco without a valid visa, so just make sure that you're careful, aicha. Better to hop a ferry to Spain and back to have your visa extended until October and have more time to figure out a course of action than have to deal with the consequences of overstaying your current visa. Good luck to you!

Just wanted to express sympathy and second this. Make sure you keep your end legal; the last thing you need is another hassle at this point. Hang in there; you'll get through this.

Tahnk you and you are right - I am not about to do anything illegal in this process - we will endure and survive and be stronger because of it!

[mybackpages 0]

The border between Morocco and Algeria is closed and you will not be allowed to enter into Algeria. But it's nto necessary to go that far. A few dirhams will get you a bus from Kenitra to Melilla which is controlled by Spain. The train from Kenitra to Nador is only about 6 stops away. A taxi will take you from Nador to Melilla for about $1-2 dollars.

[sereia 0]

ya i figured the border between algeria and morocco had problems. spain is much closer for her anyway. i would seriously consider doing that.

as far as paying a little baksheesh to get your visa extended... i understand you don't want to contribute to the corruption, you are a strong woman for that. but unfortunately it is how EVERYTHING works in morocco.

again,good luck!

Edited May 13, 2007 by abdounjen

[peezey 0]

How much could it be to give the guy a little money to extend the visa?

It is not really the point of how much it would be - it is the point that it is not ethically right to do this and I will not be one who condones what is happening here. If I pay this man off - what kind of person does that make me - I am trying to do everything legal - everything right - if I start falling into the illegal class, then all of my words through this would have meant nothing. I understand why people do that - I am just not going to start following that path. I hope you understand what I am saying. My husband and I love each other more than anything in this world, but we will not taint our love or our beliefs by doing things that are just not right - and encouraging these corrupt individuals is just not right. Our doors will open and in the end we will walk away knowing we never compromised our selves to make it happen.

You're making far too big a deal out of this for a few bucks. It's not like it will be documented that you helped the guy with Friday couscous so you could get a few months. Until there is a huge change in the economy, your refusal to give the guy a few dollars makes no change at all in the "system" and only hurts you and your plans.

And if you don't want to give the guy some money, why don't you take a day trip to Melilla to get the visitor visa extended? This is totally legal and people do it everyday. It seems like you are refusing to do any of the things suggested just because one man is trying to get some money out of you. He isn't your only option.

[Visa4habibi! 0]

Just wanted to say that you're in my prayers and I'm sorry for all your sufferings, Aisha. Stay strong, sister, Inshallah, you'll get your way!

My two cents: the King doesn't want to make anything better over there, only what's needed for him. I'm sure he's richer than you and he doesn't do anything to change the country, even though, he could!

So, if you're in a poor corrupt country... trying to beat the system.... good luck there!

I wouldn't do that, but it's your choice. Do what others suggested to you, go to Spain and come back. Hope, you won't have to deal with the same man again after you return. Cause if you do, he might become even more stubborn and want even more money! Which you didn't want to do in the first place. Anyway, you do what you think is best for you, just think if it's worth all the heartbreak and problems on the way.

May Allah give you strength and a quick solution to all your problems!

Good luck and keep us posted!

Tanya

[aicha 0]

How much could it be to give the guy a little money to extend the visa?

It is not really the point of how much it would be - it is the point that it is not ethically right to do this and I will not be one who condones what is happening here. If I pay this man off - what kind of person does that make me - I am trying to do everything legal - everything right - if I start falling into the illegal class, then all of my words through this would have meant nothing. I understand why people do that - I am just not going to start following that path. I hope you understand what I am saying. My husband and I love each other more than anything in this world, but we will not taint our love or our beliefs by doing things that are just not right - and encouraging these corrupt individuals is just not right. Our doors will open and in the end we will walk away knowing we never compromised our selves to make it happen.

You're making far too big a deal out of this for a few bucks. It's not like it will be documented that you helped the guy with Friday couscous so you could get a few months. Until there is a huge change in the economy, your refusal to give the guy a few dollars makes no change at all in the "system" and only hurts you and your plans.

And if you don't want to give the guy some money, why don't you take a day trip to Melilla to get the visitor visa extended? This is totally legal and people do it everyday. It seems like you are refusing to do any of the things suggested just because one man is trying to get some money out of you. He isn't your only option.

Peezey,

Thanks for your comment - I did not refuse to do the Spain thing - I refuse to do the money thing - I did not know about the Spain thing until I started getting the posts here and comments about it - I am considering this option. I would never refuse to do something that is legal to help us - and the Spain trip is now becoming an option. But I have paid out enough money on the other things - I should not have to continue to pay more just because they are corrupt. I am checking into a lot of other options and I posted to get comments and suggestions. So thank you to everyone for your prayers and for your suggestions and especially for the trip advice to the city controlled by Spain.