DENIAL AFTER 7+ MONTHS?! WHAT THE HELL.

[Jaquelly 1,647]

2 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

As the USC is a non EEA they will be unable to marry in the UK unless they go through the process on the UK side of things. This would involve following UK immigration rules and filing for their own type of fiancé visa. This can be complicated and for some impossible. Of course they could get married stateside with little issue. In the UK, one cannot just go get married if one of the party is an immigrant and non EEA.

Totally off topic, but I look forward to when we have to file our paperwork. I hear it is much less painless for the USC.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

1 hour ago, mtempelaar said:

As someone who did a CR-1 with a Dutch hubby, you need to frontload the evidence.  That will hopefully avoid any delaying RFEs.  We submitted a 2 inch binder with so much evidence that I could barely close the rings.    Being European helps as it's low fraud, but still there's a clear level of minimum evidence required. 

 

 

And that minimum is most certainly not a 2 inch binder.  It is a mere tiny fraction of what you sent.  An ideal I-129F from most European countries should just be a couple of photos (max 5), proof of meeting in person in past 2 years, and letters of intent.  Booom, approved.

 

We've had an approved I-129F for a K1 and two approved I-130s for the CR1.  The I-129F just had a couple of photos and passport stamps, the second I-130 just had a couple of things too (and we were living together), the third I-130 had nothing and that is the one that got us the visa.  🤣

 

 

[Soonish 90]

1 hour ago, Eric-Pris said:

DO NOT SEND any responses to a "notice of intent to deny" before getting the actual notice in the mail.  That could foul up your case even more.

 

I would not put my whole case on the word of a less than intelligent government donk.

 

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

This is very a very important point for the OP. If you don't know that something has been denied for sure, there's nowhere to send anything to. Don't expect the USCIS to magically be able to figure out how to match up an additional package to your current case file (it's not going to happen). That's why it's very important for the OP to remain calm and investigate further. They need to press any tier 2 spoken to, need to get on pressing officials or going to infopass. If a notice was supposedly sent out but still hasn't arrived in 30 days, something sounds a bit odd to me.

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Oh dear! My fiance is losing his mind, I literally called him as he was about to hand over the package to the USPS and said "noooooo, call USCIS and speak to Tier 2 again first!!" 😂

 

He hates speaking with them now but I have convinced him to just give it one more shot to clarify where the letter is and where we should be sending evidence to. He will definitely be frustrated by the time he gets off the phone with them. I hope he gets somewhere at least. 

[Boiler 46,276]

1 hour ago, N-o-l-a said:

 

And that minimum is most certainly not a 2 inch binder.  It is a mere tiny fraction of what you sent.  An ideal I-129F from most European countries should just be a couple of photos (max 5), proof of meeting in person in past 2 years, and letters of intent.  Booom, approved.

 

We've had an approved I-129F for a K1 and two approved I-130s for the CR1.  The I-129F just had a couple of photos and passport stamps, the second I-130 just had a couple of things too (and we were living together), the third I-130 had nothing and that is the one that got us the visa.  🤣

 

 

I did nothing like that as well.

[Beth & Achraf 328]

20 hours ago, ALGS said:

The WAC number entered into any of the websites old/new or apps just gives us received. 

 

I have my fiance trying to get an infopass as we  speak but they are all booked up. I think maybe he should just drive over there and try to make an appointment at the actual desk, even if it is to come back the following day. 

 

I know we didn't wait that long compared to some, I just don't get why they suddenly decided to deny it?

 

They definitely didn't send an RFE, the post has been checked every day, religiously.

 

We will definitely be going the congressperson/senator route to try and find out the reasons for this decision.

 

Thanks for your help.

Best time to book an Info pass is at midnight,  they fill up quickly.....   

[Soonish 90]

***Update for anyone interested in this thread***

 

My fiance got through to a very helpful tier 2 officer who advised that, yes, a NOID would be sent. However, there is the chance for us to fix this if we submit everything as requested. (Thank our lucky stars)

 

Most interestingly a NOID has not yet been printed or sent, so no idea where the other tier 1 and tier 2 got the 7th of July from?!?

 

We will receive this decision officially by Aug 9th (a response to our "out of processing" request) and then we can submit the evidence in accordance with what the NOID states.

 

So all in all, everything is not lost!!! I am so thankful and I am really grateful for all of the help and support that everyone has provided me/us with today.

 

Thanks again! and let's hope we can finally move forward. If this new information turns out to be questionable then who knows but, for now at least, I feel like we are getting somewhere.

 

❤️

[cdneh 3,112]

58 minutes ago, ALGS said:

***Update for anyone interested in this thread***

 

My fiance got through to a very helpful tier 2 officer who advised that, yes, a NOID would be sent. However, there is the chance for us to fix this if we submit everything as requested. (Thank our lucky stars)

 

Most interestingly a NOID has not yet been printed or sent, so no idea where the other tier 1 and tier 2 got the 7th of July from?!?

 

We will receive this decision officially by Aug 9th (a response to our "out of processing" request) and then we can submit the evidence in accordance with what the NOID states.

 

So all in all, everything is not lost!!! I am so thankful and I am really grateful for all of the help and support that everyone has provided me/us with today.

 

Thanks again! and let's hope we can finally move forward. If this new information turns out to be questionable then who knows but, for now at least, I feel like we are getting somewhere.

 

❤️

Excellent.

[Scandi 4,186]

There is NO reason NOT to send more info. Even if they don't manage to connect the new info with his file, it won't mess up his case at all. Nothing bad will happen to his case if he tries to send more info, he only has things to win by doing it, nothing to lose. 

 

So yes, my recommendation is Still to send the info either way. NOID or not.

 

If/when he does get the NOID, he just sends another response with the same documents/info. No harm done whatsoever.

Edited August 1, 2018 by Scandi

[Jaquelly 1,647]

I am glad they are giving you a NOID but allowing you to fix these things! GREAT NEWS!!!

 

Ask us if you need help! You can message me individually, I don't mind it, we're a UK couple and managed to get through just fine!

[JuniorMints 66]

On 7/31/2018 at 6:37 PM, Mr.Jose said:

Why didn’t you include any photos especially for a K1? No offense but like the USCIS, I smell something fishy as well.

I agree, the best evidence of actually being together is photos and then passport stamps,  boarding passes and letter of intent to marry.  There's no way I would think of not sending these things with the petition ........ I would expect a problem, even for a CR1.

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[geowrian 22,338]

41 minutes ago, JuniorMints said:

I agree, the best evidence of actually being together is photos and then passport stamps,  boarding passes and letter of intent to marry.  There's no way I would think of not sending these things with the petition ........ I would expect a problem, even for a CR1.

Photos would show you together, but putting a verifiable date on a photo is the issue. Photos are generally considered secondary evidence of meeting in person within the 2 years. Primary evidence such as the passport stamps,, boarding passes, receipts, etc. put a date and location together.

The letter of intent to marry has nothing to do with the 2 year meeting requirement. It's a separate requirement being addressed.

I only sent a 2 photos of us together with the I-129F, and I don't think either of them were necessary since the primary evidence provided was more than sufficient for showing the 2 year meeting requirement (and frontloading wasn't needed for my now-wife's embassy).

[Soonish 90]

9 hours ago, Jaquelly said:

I am glad they are giving you a NOID but allowing you to fix these things! GREAT NEWS!!!

 

Ask us if you need help! You can message me individually, I don't mind it, we're a UK couple and managed to get through just fine!

Thank you! I appreciate it. 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

On ‎8‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 9:04 AM, ALGS said:

I didn't say they were USCIS mistakes. They are quite obviously my mistake. 

 

I am just unhappy with the process to rectify it.

 

Also, I think your point has been made numerous times. 

 

I understand the desire to say "you deserve it" but, really, you don't have to. 

I did say that I was not surprised to hear what happened but I mentioned nothing about deserving anything

 

[Limey 551]

23 hours ago, geowrian said:

Photos would show you together, but putting a verifiable date on a photo is the issue.

 

We had a photo from a tourist attraction we visited in the US - one of those ones that prints graphics and a date on the photo. Didn't think about it when she bought it, but we submitted it as evidence of our meeting along with the passport stamps etc.

 

Some photos can be dated based on what is in them (eg if you can show you're at a sporting event, eg superbowl, and you manage to get stadium and evidence of who is playing in the photo, etc). Similarly last year we were at Niagara Falls and there was a big sculpture of numbers 150 at the top of the falls (it was Canada's 150th anniversary year). A photo in front of something like that with a note of explanation can help prove dates. Parliament ("Big Ben") is currently covered in scaffolding for the past year or so - again, a picture in front of that with a news item about the renovation would help to prove date.

 

I guess you could always take a tip from kidnappers and pose with a copy of the day's newspaper.

Edited August 3, 2018 by Limey

[geowrian 22,338]

9 minutes ago, Limey said:

We had a photo from a tourist attraction we visited in the US - one of those ones that prints graphics and a date on the photo. Didn't think about it when she bought it, but we submitted it as evidence of our meeting along with the passport stamps etc.

 

Some photos can be dated based on what is in them (eg if you can show you're at a sporting event, eg superbowl, and you manage to get stadium and evidence of who is playing in the photo, etc). Similarly last year we were at Niagara Falls and there was a big sculpture of numbers 150 at the top of the falls (it was Canada's 150th anniversary year). A photo in front of something like that with a note of explanation can help prove dates. Parliament ("Big Ben") is currently covered in scaffolding for the past year or so - again, a picture in front of that with a news item about the renovation would help to prove date.

 

I guess you could always take a tip from kidnappers and pose with a copy of the day's newspaper.

There certainly are circumstances where you can put a date with a photo. But in general, a photo doesn't show a date unless there is other evidence supporting it (i.e. tickets to an event combined with a photos at the event).

Dates printed on a photo are easily added afterwards, so I wouldn't personally put much faith on that making a difference.

It's about the total package of evidence...no single piece is likely to do it, but several items all pointing at meeting in person is difficult to contest.