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In November 2018, I will be eligible to apply for naturalization. When I submit my application in November, I will have met the residency and continuous presence requirements.

 

However, I have been accepted to a graduate program in France, which starts in September 2018. Therefore, I will be in France from September-December 2018. I will come back in December for a few weeks (to see my spouse and attend biometrics), and then go back to France from January-May 2019. I will come back for week-long visits in between and whenever my interview is scheduled.

 

I should also note that my spouse will be doing research overseas starting in January 2019 (while my application is pending). We will be changing our permanent address to her parents’ address in a different state (and USCIS will be moving our case to a different field office at that point).

 

Are the residency and continuous presence requirements only for the period before I submit my application or while the application is processing as well? After I submit the application, can I travel outside the US (for periods less than 6 months)?

Since I am studying abroad temporarily and will be gone for less than 6 month periods, will USCIS understand that I have not abandoned my US residence?

If my naturalization application is in fact denied for not meeting continuous presence and residence requirements, does this have any impact on my PR?

Is this all just way too complicated? Should I just wait until I finish my schooling to apply for citizenship?

I-130 process (CR-1):

Spoiler

I-130 sent: October 27, 2014

NOA1: October 30, 2014 (Nebraska Service Center)

NOA2: March 31, 2015

DS-261 completed and AOS bill paid: April 27, 2015

AOS & IV packages sent: May 20, 2015

Checklist for IV fee: June 26, 2015

IV fee paid: July 27, 2015

DS-260 completed: August 10, 2015

Checklist for benificiary's proof of legal residence: September 11, 2015

Beneficiary's proof of legal residence sent: September 15, 2015

Case complete (3 N/A's & confirmation via phone): October 13, 2015

Case complete e-mail received: October 20, 2015

Interview scheduled (P4 received): October 23, 2015

Interview: December 1, 2015 (APPROVED!)

Visa in hand: December 10, 2015

 

I-751 process (Removal of Conditions):

I-751 sent: December 5, 2017 (Vermont Service Center)

NOA received: December 8, 2017 (GC extended until February 2019)

NOA received: August 6, 2018 (GC extended until August 2019)

Transferred to local field office: April 9, 2018

Interview (combo with N-400): August 6, 2019

New card is being produced: August 9, 2019

 

N-400 process (Naturalization):

N-400 filed: December 3, 2018 (filed online; Hartford, CT field office)

Biometrics letter received: December 12, 2018

Biometrics appointment: December 27, 2018 (walked in on December 17, 2018)

Interview: August 6, 2019 ("A decision cannot yet be made about your application")

In line for oath: August 9, 2019

Oath: September 17, 2019

 

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I'm not an expert, but it sounds to me, as you're planning on staying about 7 1/2 months out of the country, that you'd be abandoning your LPR.

 

I had my N400 interview last week, and after I mentioned I had a couple international trips before my oath, they immediately asked whether those trips would put me over the 6 months mark (they won't).

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They don't just count your presence until the day you submit your N400 application, they will also count any absences after submission of the application. Lots of people have reported being asked at their interview to account for travel since submission of the application. So you may be putting yourself in jeopardy here. Until you have citizenship, you are still an LPR and taking up residence abroad could threaten your LPR status.

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Agreed with above. By studying outside the US and returning for visits, you will no longer be a resident in the US and will lose your status. With your spouse also starting research abroad, it looks like you're intending to move back to Europe and your residence during your study abroad is France. This affects your continuous residency and also risks abandonment of PR and your N400 petition. 

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Ok, so it looks like I have 2 issues here:

1. Abandonment of my LPR. 

2. Disruption of continuous residence for naturalization. 

 

For issue 1, what if I got a re-entry permit before beginning my studies? Would this be sufficient evidence that I’m not abandoning my LPR? I would still come for visits every few months, but have the reentry permit as a back up until I finish my studies in 2 years.

 

For issue 2: Based on current naturalization timelines, if I apply as soon as I’m eligible, I can expect to have my naturalization interview next summer. If that’s the case, I will still be within the physical presence requirements (18 months in the last 3 years). Will having a reentry permit disrupt my 3 year continuous residence requirement, or will it support  it? What are the implications of having a reentry permit on naturalization application?

 

I can always just wait until after I finish my studies to apply for naturalization but if I can, I’d prefer to do it now!

 

Thanks for your help!

I-130 process (CR-1):

Spoiler

I-130 sent: October 27, 2014

NOA1: October 30, 2014 (Nebraska Service Center)

NOA2: March 31, 2015

DS-261 completed and AOS bill paid: April 27, 2015

AOS & IV packages sent: May 20, 2015

Checklist for IV fee: June 26, 2015

IV fee paid: July 27, 2015

DS-260 completed: August 10, 2015

Checklist for benificiary's proof of legal residence: September 11, 2015

Beneficiary's proof of legal residence sent: September 15, 2015

Case complete (3 N/A's & confirmation via phone): October 13, 2015

Case complete e-mail received: October 20, 2015

Interview scheduled (P4 received): October 23, 2015

Interview: December 1, 2015 (APPROVED!)

Visa in hand: December 10, 2015

 

I-751 process (Removal of Conditions):

I-751 sent: December 5, 2017 (Vermont Service Center)

NOA received: December 8, 2017 (GC extended until February 2019)

NOA received: August 6, 2018 (GC extended until August 2019)

Transferred to local field office: April 9, 2018

Interview (combo with N-400): August 6, 2019

New card is being produced: August 9, 2019

 

N-400 process (Naturalization):

N-400 filed: December 3, 2018 (filed online; Hartford, CT field office)

Biometrics letter received: December 12, 2018

Biometrics appointment: December 27, 2018 (walked in on December 17, 2018)

Interview: August 6, 2019 ("A decision cannot yet be made about your application")

In line for oath: August 9, 2019

Oath: September 17, 2019

 

So grateful for visajourney, but so happy to not need it anymore! Good luck to all.

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41 minutes ago, kkg325 said:

Ok, so it looks like I have 2 issues here:

1. Abandonment of my LPR. 

2. Disruption of continuous residence for naturalization. 

 

For issue 1, what if I got a re-entry permit before beginning my studies? Would this be sufficient evidence that I’m not abandoning my LPR? I would still come for visits every few months, but have the reentry permit as a back up until I finish my studies in 2 years.

 

For issue 2: Based on current naturalization timelines, if I apply as soon as I’m eligible, I can expect to have my naturalization interview next summer. If that’s the case, I will still be within the physical presence requirements (18 months in the last 3 years). Will having a reentry permit disrupt my 3 year continuous residence requirement, or will it support  it? What are the implications of having a reentry permit on naturalization application?

 

I can always just wait until after I finish my studies to apply for naturalization but if I can, I’d prefer to do it now!

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Definitely get the re-entry permit. I was in a similar situation. Clearly explain the reason for your re-entry permit when you request it. Also save this document as the re-entry permit and the request can later be used as supporting documents for your n400.

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