N-336 form after n-400 denied

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

Would like to think the OP did make a mistake; a big mistake, but a mistake all the same... still no easy way out of this.... but these are the reasons people need to do their research and understand what their rights are and what they can and can't do. Blaming ignorance or "I didn't know" doesn't cut it for me. It's your own obligation to know these things. You wanted the GC and LPR status so it's up to you to abide by the laws that are on the books. It isn't up to someone to tell you, it's up to you to know and follow them. Simple.

 

And easily heard of 3-4 in Texas alone who have been arrested for illegally voting in the last presidential election... funny enough, one of them voted for Trump, so it can go both ways; but it is still their own fault. And it is hard to believe after 20 some years don't even know that you can't vote in a federal election... OP even asked is green card holder and LPR were same thing... shows lack of knowledge of their own situation which now has become more complex.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

  When you get your green card in the envelope there is  a welcome to the US pamphlet which among other things warns you that you can not vote.  So no one with a green card can claim there have not been given notice that voting in federal elections is a crime.  That note has been in the pamphlet for at least 30 years.  Cleaver those Feds , they have given you written notice/warning  so no one can legally claim they have not been informed.   If you chose not to read it , that is your problem/accident .   The stand punishment is deportation proceedings.  ( I know a couple of Nigerians that got caught up in the first black president excitement and found out they pay a big price for that ) 

[dandk 72]

12 hours ago, Benada said:

I know, it was a honest mistake. I'm freaking out and dont know if I will get any sleep over this.

Depending on which State you reside, the State can charge you with Voter Fraud. As others already mentioned, it's deport-able offense.

 

Here is sample of the recent case,

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/peru-native-who-voted-illegally-two-u-s-elections-now-n746721

 

 

[CheeseMonstah 87]

4 minutes ago, dandk said:

Depending on which State you reside, the State can charge you with Voter Fraud. As others already mentioned, it's deport-able offense.

 

Here is sample of the recent case,

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/peru-native-who-voted-illegally-two-u-s-elections-now-n746721

 

 

It's sounding like deportation might be the path forward. It's a federal offense.

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

7 minutes ago, dandk said:

Depending on which State you reside, the State can charge you with Voter Fraud. As others already mentioned, it's deport-able offense.

 

Here is sample of the recent case,

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/peru-native-who-voted-illegally-two-u-s-elections-now-n746721

 

 

 

Yup, more "but I didn't know".... still it is their responsibility to know, but easier to blame everyone else.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Ben&Zian

[dandk 72]

5 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

Yup, more "but I didn't know".... still it is their responsibility to know, but easier to blame everyone else.

If you read the case regarding the Peruvian woman on the US 7th Circuit court, it stated that DMV employees are required to offer voter registration opportunity and they barred from saying anything to discourage applicant from registering to vote.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

12 hours ago, love_my_wife said:

Well, I don't know which country you are originally from, but it is basic and common sense and knowledge that only citizens of a country are allowed to vote in their elections. This should have stopped you from registering to vote and then voting. I have never thought of registering to vote in my wildest of dreams!

Actually in the EU, in each country, the other EU countries' citizens who live there are allowed to vote (but only in the local elections, for city council & mayor, for example).

[randomstairs 303]

3 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

After living in CA for 5 years I highly doubt this. They just allow people to walk up and vote on provisional ballots if they aren't you on the registered rolls and they don't check your ID to see if you are who you say you are.

Wow. That's unbelievable. I was referring to errors resulting from the new DMV automatic registration program, though. There, at least, no wrongful registrations of non-citizens have been reported, so far. But, yeah, it that's how the actual voting "works" in CA, that's scary. 

[randomstairs 303]

1 hour ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Actually in the EU, in each country, the other EU countries' citizens who live there are allowed to vote (but only in the local elections, for city council & mayor, for example).

That's because EU citizenship serves as a secondary citizenship. EU citizens can also vote for EMPs from any EU country the live in. So in a sense they are citizens of the "super-state" in which they can vote. 

[randomstairs 303]

1 hour ago, dandk said:

Depending on which State you reside, the State can charge you with Voter Fraud. As others already mentioned, it's deport-able offense.

 

Here is sample of the recent case,

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/peru-native-who-voted-illegally-two-u-s-elections-now-n746721

 

 

My intuition tells me that the lady in this article honestly made a mistake because she felt pressured to register at the DMV. However, if she actually voted after that, that's hard to defend. Same for the OP. 

[geowrian 22,337]

Agreed...registering to vote can be a mistake fairly easily. There are some DMVs that have done this without request, actually. A flawed registry is a concern but not necessarily a big issue. Actually voting is very different.

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

Agreed. Of course it shouldn't be automatically offered to non citizens; but even my husband was offered and he declined knowing he couldn't and shouldn't; but as others stated, actually going and voting after the fact is the issue. Again these are things LPR's have to take responsibility for also, knowing the laws. Trying to blame "peer pressure" from a DMV employee doesn't exactly hold strong for me personally.

[Dan2023 26]

14 hours ago, Ischnura said:

 In 20  years you suddenly decided to vote in one particular election 'by accident'. . .

Ischnura lmao 

[evapaula 230]

16 hours ago, Benada said:

I have been here in the states for 20 years and having my kids growing and coming to understand government system, being the mom to teach my older son how it all works came naturally and I did not think if I was allowed to vote or not. 

how does someone who explains the government system to their kids skip the part about "privileges and responsibilities for citizens only"?

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

1 hour ago, evapaula said:

how does someone who explains the government system to their kids skip the part about "privileges and responsibilities for citizens only"?

 

That's a great question.