Visa stamps dates not matching

[Manny16 5]

Hello everyone,

 

I was organizing my passport stamps section and I noticed an issue. First of all I traveled 5 times to my fiance in Egypt, so I do have 5 Egyptian visas in my passport for each visit, but the arrival and departure stamps are all over the place. For example, in one visa you would find the officer stamped my arrival visit of August 2017 and another officer used the same page to stamp my arrival visit in 2018. Another example, I had 10 hours layover at Istanbul so I got a visa in the airport to go out for like 7 hours to see the city, but the Istanbul officer stamped my Istanbul departure stamp (June 2018) in the same egyptian visa of April 2017. 

Is this normal? Also some stamps are in arabic, others are in English. Do I need to translate stamps?? Also is it ok to use highlighters to clear things up? 

Please help and let me know what you did if you had the same issue.

 

Thank you

[EmmNM 180]

19 minutes ago, Manny16 said:

Hello everyone,

 

I was organizing my passport stamps section and I noticed an issue. First of all I traveled 5 times to my fiance in Egypt, so I do have 5 Egyptian visas in my passport for each visit, but the arrival and departure stamps are all over the place. For example, in one visa you would find the officer stamped my arrival visit of August 2017 and another officer used the same page to stamp my arrival visit in 2018. Another example, I had 10 hours layover at Istanbul so I got a visa in the airport to go out for like 7 hours to see the city, but the Istanbul officer stamped my Istanbul departure stamp (June 2018) in the same egyptian visa of April 2017. 

Is this normal? Also some stamps are in arabic, others are in English. Do I need to translate stamps?? Also is it ok to use highlighters to clear things up? 

Please help and let me know what you did if you had the same issue.

 

Thank you

Just copy the pages. I would not alter them with highlighters. Attach a small explanation if you want to. I would also include the ticket stubs for the flight, flight itineraries, and the credit card statements you used to pay for the tickets as back up proof. Additionally include any hotel reservations, travel tickets while you were there, and obviously photos together and with family, etc. Don't worry about translating the visas.

 

Good luck!

[Manny16 5]

1 minute ago, EmmNM said:

Just copy the pages. I would not alter them with highlighters. Attach a small explanation if you want to. I would also include the ticket stubs for the flight, flight itineraries, and the credit card statements you used to pay for the tickets as back up proof. Additionally include any hotel reservations, travel tickets while you were there, and obviously photos together and with family, etc. Don't worry about translating the visas.

 

Good luck!

I'm including a translated church engagement record, rings receipt, visa stamps, flight tickets, some Uber receipts, and pictures together. Those are my in person meeting proofs i'm providing. The only thing that worries me is the whole confusion of the stamps, I don't even know how to explain it well to them to not make things complicated.

I was also going to use the highlighter in the Uber receipts to highlight the address and dates. Do you recommend against using highlighters at all? Thanks for your reply!

[EmmNM 180]

1 minute ago, Manny16 said:

I'm including a translated church engagement record, rings receipt, visa stamps, flight tickets, some Uber receipts, and pictures together. Those are my in person meeting proofs i'm providing. The only thing that worries me is the whole confusion of the stamps, I don't even know how to explain it well to them to not make things complicated.

I was also going to use the highlighter in the Uber receipts to highlight the address and dates. Do you recommend against using highlighters at all? Thanks for your reply!

Do as you wish with the highlighters. I personally would not. I think highlights make things look messy and I like things to look professional. I wouldn't worry about the stamps, You obviously have 5 visas in your passport to Egypt. Means you have been there 5 times. Regardless where your entry exit stamps are located. I wouldn't over complicate it. You have plenty enough proof. Just attach an explanation that says something like:

 

"These are copies of the 5 visas for entry into Egypt. The corresponding entry exit stamps are not necessarily in the same place."

 

One last thing. You mentioned you had an engagement ceremony at a church? I hope that doesn't look like a marriage or a marriage contract.

[Manny16 5]

5 minutes ago, EmmNM said:

Do as you wish with the highlighters. I personally would not. I think highlights make things look messy and I like things to look professional. I wouldn't worry about the stamps, You obviously have 5 visas in your passport to Egypt. Means you have been there 5 times. Regardless where your entry exit stamps are located. I wouldn't over complicate it. You have plenty enough proof. Just attach an explanation that says something like:

 

"These are copies of the 5 visas for entry into Egypt. The corresponding entry exit stamps are not necessarily in the same place."

 

One last thing. You mentioned you had an engagement ceremony at a church? I hope that doesn't look like a marriage or a marriage contract.

 

It is clearly translated as "engagement record"; however, i've been thinking the same thing to not include it in my packet because i'm worried if they think it looks like a marriage contract. Do you think if I exclude the engagement record and include everything else mentioned would be enough?

[EmmNM 180]

10 minutes ago, Manny16 said:

 

It is clearly translated as "engagement record"; however, i've been thinking the same thing to not include it in my packet because i'm worried if they think it looks like a marriage contract. Do you think if I exclude the engagement record and include everything else mentioned would be enough?

It sounds like you are both Christian? The culture in Egypt is predominately Muslim and the CO officer will be aware of that. Muslims have nikah or a marriage contract before they can be together romantically as long as there are witnesses. Regardless if its an officially registered marriage. I have seen some Muslims do that in order to be able to have romantic relations with their significant other and not being doing it outside of marriage. When contracts are drawn up they are typically marriage contracts and not engagement contracts. I've never heard of an engagement contract before. Not to be nosy, but can you share an overview of what is in it? I couldn't give you advice either way unless I know what is in it. That being said. If you eliminate the title and it looks very similar to a Muslim marriage contract I would NOT include it or any pictures that correspond to the ceremony or you could get denied.

Edited July 23, 2018 by EmmNM

[Soonish 90]

1 hour ago, Manny16 said:

Hello everyone,

 

I was organizing my passport stamps section and I noticed an issue. First of all I traveled 5 times to my fiance in Egypt, so I do have 5 Egyptian visas in my passport for each visit, but the arrival and departure stamps are all over the place. For example, in one visa you would find the officer stamped my arrival visit of August 2017 and another officer used the same page to stamp my arrival visit in 2018. Another example, I had 10 hours layover at Istanbul so I got a visa in the airport to go out for like 7 hours to see the city, but the Istanbul officer stamped my Istanbul departure stamp (June 2018) in the same egyptian visa of April 2017. 

Is this normal? Also some stamps are in arabic, others are in English. Do I need to translate stamps?? Also is it ok to use highlighters to clear things up? 

Please help and let me know what you did if you had the same issue.

 

Thank you

I have a stamp in my passport from the US (Houston POE if I remember correctly) for a December 2017 ESTA entry stamped with "valid until Feb 2015"  !!

[EmmNM 180]

Hmmmm. I wonder why you never responded? ... 

[Manny16 5]

4 hours ago, EmmNM said:

Hmmmm. I wonder why you never responded? ... 

hey I didn't see your last respond. It's like a one paper titled "Engagement record" where it states that the two couples held an engagement ceremony at church so and so with the presence of the parents of both parties and has the signature of the pastor and myself and my fiance. 

[EmmNM 180]

1 minute ago, Manny16 said:

hey I didn't see your last respond. It's like a one paper titled "Engagement record" where it states that the two couples held an engagement ceremony at church so and so with the presence of the parents of both parties and has the signature of the pastor and myself and my fiance. 

Two couples held an engagement ceremony? I assume you just mean one couple being you and your fiance. It just seems a bit weird to me. Who signs an engagement contract with a pastor and everything? Engagements are not legally binding so you don't need a contract. Update your country to Egypt and post this question. You will get Egypt specific responses. I don't think its a good idea to include any evidence of any type of ceremony.  

[Manny16 5]

20 minutes ago, EmmNM said:

Two couples held an engagement ceremony? I assume you just mean one couple being you and your fiance. It just seems a bit weird to me. Who signs an engagement contract with a pastor and everything? Engagements are not legally binding so you don't need a contract. Update your country to Egypt and post this question. You will get Egypt specific responses. I don't think its a good idea to include any evidence of any type of ceremony.  

Yes it's something normal that takes place in church. But I decided to not include it in my packet anyway. I do have many other proves of meeting in person in the past two years. And regarding our relationship, I guess having the ring receipt is sufficient proof of us being engaged.

Thank you so much for your answers

[EmmNM 180]

1 hour ago, Manny16 said:

Yes it's something normal that takes place in church. But I decided to not include it in my packet anyway. I do have many other proves of meeting in person in the past two years. And regarding our relationship, I guess having the ring receipt is sufficient proof of us being engaged.

Thank you so much for your answers

That's what I would do. I'm sure you have plenty of proof.