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14 minutes ago, Roel said:

Nope. No chance. Honestly? Everyone would be claiming they are afraid to fly if it was that easy.

 

Besides. If that one person can't visit, the other one should fly then. Unless both of you have that fear. Unlucky. Just because your fiance is unlikely to receive a tourist visa, it doesn't mean it's a base for waiver.

If both of them have that fear, then how would the fiancee come over? Land and sea travel?

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2 minutes ago, BlessedAssurance said:

If both of them have that fear, then how would the fiancee come over? Land and sea travel?

It's an option. ;) Actually if OP is afraid to fly that bad, she can travel by sea also.

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Even religious reasons make a waiver difficult to obtain. Even the most strict cultures usually allow an unmarried couple to meet in the presence of chaperones. The K-1 does not require you to be alone during the in-person meeting, or stay overnight. There was a case on here where they meet for just a few hours in a Muslim county with the girl’s father and brother present as chaperones and the girl’s face was veiled throughout. That was enough to meet the requirements. 

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22 minutes ago, Roel said:

It's an option. ;) Actually if OP is afraid to fly that bad, she can travel by sea also.

A quick check shows Peruvian citizens can visit Mexico and most Caribbean countries without a visa. The former is doable by land without doing anything crazy; the latter by sea.

Meeting in a third country fulfills the legal requirements; you just have to meet each other.

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

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NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
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2 minutes ago, DaveAndAnastasia said:

A quick check shows Peruvian citizens can visit Mexico and most Caribbean countries without a visa. The former is doable by land without doing anything crazy; the latter by sea.

Meeting in a third country fulfills the legal requirements; you just have to meet each other.

That kind of arrangement came up in a discussion several months ago.  The guy, who lives in Boston (I think), was going to drive to Mexico for a couple days to meet the requirement for meeting.......

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Time for a (long) cruise? ;)

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

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8/15/2017: POE

 

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25 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

You could even reach Peru on your bicycle

 

Treating your anxiety is possible. Your future spouse will be grateful you're able to visit her country and meet her friends and family. 

Crossing the Darien Gap in Panama by bicycle may be a bit much.

 

to the OP, it looks like you have a couple of options, meeting in Mexico, taking a cruise that stops in Peru (several pop up with a simple search), or work through your anxiety and take a plane.  I agree with @Oliversmom, you should make sure you get down to your fiance’s Home country as you want to experience it for yourself.

 

Good Luck!

 

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N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

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3 hours ago, cycswan said:

Apparently they don’t make much exceptions for the in person meeting, but would they make one if one person in the relationship had severe anxiety and couldn’t fly due to it? Also, flying would be the only option of transportation for meeting. Has the in person meeting ever been exempt due to anxiety or related issues?

As others have said you will not receive an exemption for that. You have been given some good options. I will say however that travel is way easier than anything that comes after in this process. The petitioning, waiting, interviewing process has given me so much anxiety and I am not the type of person who gets anxiety. The constant worry of asking yourself if you filled in everything right. The wait wait wait for about 7 months before you hear ANYTHING since your noa1 and seeing others be approved before you that sent in their application after. The constant worry and concern if he's going to get denied coming from a high fraud country. And if he does get denied the fact we will have to get married and start all over again. Additionally k1 is just the 1st step. When she comes you have to file for AOS, AP and EAP, then wait another 12-18 months or more for the green card. And then again in 2 years after green card to file for removing conditions which right now is another 1-2 year wait. And if that's not enough, you get to file again for naturalization a year after that. This process is long, hard, and will give the strongest minds anxiety. Please prepare yourself. The anxiety for immigration is tremendous. 

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First of all let me just say that I have always had a fear of heights.  Even when I was on a second floor in shopping mall, if I could look down and see the first floor, I would get dizzy and lose my breath. Before meeting my wife online, I had only flown once about 20 years ago and I was terrified. 

 

When I "met "my wife online,  my desire to meet her in person was stronger than my fear of heights (and flying). So, I just took the plunge and it was the best decision I've ever made! That was exactly a year ago to the month. 

 

Since that time, I've made 6 trips to the DR and already have the 7th booked for October. One can't keep me out of the air or the DR! I discovered that I actually love flying (but still hate airports). :)

 

Just take the plunge! Carpe Diem! You never know what you are missing.

 

Besides, how in the world can you plan to marry someone who you haven't even met face to face? As we all know, people can be much different behind a computer screen. Not trying to sound judgmental but personally,  I wouldn't even be considering a K1 until I've actually met the person face to face. 

 

Book a flight and don't get a window seat. Meet your girlfriend and then decide if she is "Ms. Right."

 

Best of luck to the both of you. Cheers!

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Most big airports/airlines have programs to help overcome fear of flying - look to see if your airport has one? 

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3 hours ago, DaveAndAnastasia said:

A quick check shows Peruvian citizens can visit Mexico and most Caribbean countries without a visa. The former is doable by land without doing anything crazy; the latter by sea.

Meeting in a third country fulfills the legal requirements; you just have to meet each other.

A drive to Mexico isn't out of the question if the Peruvian can get there by plane or cruise. It would be a lot more money than just flying and getting it over with. I would personally want to experience her culture first hand to learn more about her. After all, she is willing to come to the United States to not only learn about but live in a totally different culture. Love conquers fears. If she is right then the fear will go out the window.

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OP-  Where is your nearest major airport?

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

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Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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