H4 Visas for Direct Family of US Citizens

[Carlo Daristotile 0]

Let's put a petition together to change immigration laws, for direct family of US citizens.

There is no reason for US Citizens to wait such a long time for direct family to enter the USA, while foreigners on H1-B do not have to wait a long time for direct family to enter the USA.

 

Foreigners

Foreigners are coming in the USA with H1-B visas for work and H-4 visas for there wife's and children, with barely any waiting time for their direct families to enter the USA.

And while they are here in the USA, cozy with there family, they can file for a Green Card.

They were not born in the USA nor they have a US Citizenship, and never paid taxes to uncle Sam.

Everybody foreigner that enters the US with H1-B and H-4 visa apply for green card while here in the US. I know since I work with many foreigners.

There families are not separated cause of a transfer to the USA.

 

Me US Citizen

Me on the other hand. Born and raised in the US. Paid taxes for over 20 years to uncle Sam.

My Brazilian wife and kids cannot enter the US with H-4 visa, and apply for a Green Card, while here in the US with me, just like all foreigners are doing.

Me and wife and kids have been married for 8 years in Brazil, but the last 2 years and 3 months separated since I transferred back to the USA, cause of current US immigration laws.

My family is forced to wait in Brazil, for 2 years and 3 months now(still waiting), since I transferred here. I have a Master's Degree in Math (advanced degree) and I am a Software Developer.

And only God knows when there Green Card will be done, and they can enter the USA.

[Thisislife 31]

Wow.Really!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did you get this info that people who work on H1 Visas don't pay taxes????? Also, they can't file for Green Card on their own until their employer sponsors one. The wait time is 12-15 years and in some cases more than that.

 

 

[geowrian 22,337]

H-class visas are not immigrant visas, hence why it doesn’t take as long to obtain, once qualified. They also go through fewer checks.

 

They can only apply for a green card in limited circumstances. Many do not (despite the claim that they all do). Try are bound by their employer. There’s plenty of conditions involved, but overall they do get to stay and work in the US. That is their reason for being here. Their family is permitted to come, if they qualify. They do pay taxes. Almost every one of them (non-derivative H-class visa holders) is employed and contributing to the system. They often don’t qualify for an immigrant visa or AOS, and if they do, the waiting period is very long.

 

Why has your processs taken so long? Why are you separated? You are permitted to stay with them during the processing. You just need to establish US domicile or show sufficient intent to establish US domicile for the I-864.

 

Obviously I would not support such a petition.

[Roel 7,192]

21 minutes ago, Carlo Daristotile said:

Let's put a petition together to change immigration laws, for direct family of US citizens.

There is no reason for US Citizens to wait such a long time for direct family to enter the USA, while foreigners on H1-B do not have to wait a long time for direct family to enter the USA.

 

Foreigners

Foreigners are coming in the USA with H1-B visas for work and H-4 visas for there wife's and children, with barely any waiting time for their direct families to enter the USA.

And while they are here in the USA, cozy with there family, they can file for a Green Card.

They were not born in the USA nor they have a US Citizenship, and never paid taxes to uncle Sam.

Everybody foreigner that enters the US with H1-B and H-4 visa apply for green card while here in the US. I know since I work with many foreigners.

There families are not separated cause of a transfer to the USA.

 

Me US Citizen

Me on the other hand. Born and raised in the US. Paid taxes for over 20 years to uncle Sam.

My Brazilian wife and kids cannot enter the US with H-4 visa, and apply for a Green Card, while here in the US with me, just like all foreigners are doing.

Me and wife and kids have been married for 8 years in Brazil, but the last 2 years and 3 months separated since I transferred back to the USA, cause of current US immigration laws.

My family is forced to wait in Brazil, for 2 years and 3 months now(still waiting), since I transferred here. I have a Master's Degree in Math (advanced degree) and I am a Software Developer.

And only God knows when there Green Card will be done, and they can enter the USA.

- There is also barely any waiting time for tourist visas. Should we petition the government to put every B2 visa through a year long AP?

- No they don't. Depends on their employer and other requirements.

- Lol ok? Of course they pay taxes. Also - do you know how many US citizen DONT pay taxes? A lot.

- Not everyone.

- You don't have to be separated either. Move to your spouse in Brazil, or visit often.

 

- Congrats on paying taxes. You're doing a right thing!

- Your Brazilian wife and kids should be happy that they even HAVE an opportunity to move in to the US to be with you. Not everyone have US family that can sponsor them.

- I mean, your education have absolutely nothing to do with your spouse immigration process. Not sure why you pointed that out.

- It's done when it's done. You're not the first to wait.

 

 

I understand that being separated it's hard and you're being bitter, but this petition would be so pointless.

Work visa applicants go through much more scrutiny to be able to - temporarily - work in the US. Many of them don't have a chance to apply for a green card at all.

[Carlo Daristotile 0]

5 minutes ago, geowrian said:

H-class visas are not immigrant visas, hence why it doesn’t take as long to obtain, once qualified. They also go through fewer checks.

 

They can only apply for a green card in limited circumstances. Many do not (despite the claim that they all do). Try are bound by their employer. There’s plenty of conditions involved, but overall they do get to stay and work in the US. That is their reason for being here. Their family is permitted to come, if they qualify. They do pay taxes. Almost every one of them (non-derivative H-class visa holders) is employed and contributing to the system. They often don’t qualify for an immigrant visa or AOS, and if they do, the waiting period is very long.

 

Why has your processs taken so long? Why are you separated? You are permitted to stay with them during the processing. You just need to establish US domicile or show sufficient intent to establish US domicile for the I-864.

 

Obviously I would not support such a petition.

 

I personally know many Brazilian families that came here on H1-B visa and H-4 Visa with General Motors, and 90% percent of them applied for Green Card while here together with their families. Even if some the wait for immigrant visa is long, they are not separated from their families. And that's the whole point, they are with their families in the US, regardless of the time it takes, regardless of it is immigrant or non immigrant visa, regardless of the get approved or not for green card.

 

Why has your process taken so long? Administrative Processing since the interview in January 2018, and they approved it, but still no deadline what so ever. Can be another year for all I know, and the lawyer and State Senator can give me no time lime.

Why are you separated? I have to work. I am in the USA working. My wife and kids are not allowed to enter, until they get their passports back from the US Consulate with the Visa.

You are permitted to stay with them during the processing. Yes, if I quit my job in the USA and go back to Brazil. Dumb way for your family to starve.

You just need to establish US domicile or show sufficient intent to establish US domicile for the I-864. I already established that prior to the interviews.

[Crazy Cat 41,903]

The long waiting time is due to the number of family-based cases in the pipeline ahead of you.....In your particular case, it seems there must have been another reason for 2+ years apart.

[Unlockable 7,314]

44 minutes ago, Carlo Daristotile said:

Let's put a petition together to change immigration laws, for direct family of US citizens.

There is no reason for US Citizens to wait such a long time for direct family to enter the USA, while foreigners on H1-B do not have to wait a long time for direct family to enter the USA. You have to understand that work visas are not just handed out to anyone like napkins at a BBQ picnic. Work visas are some of the most difficult visas to obtain. There are many who do not even qualify for them. And for those that do, they have to find a company to sponsor them and possibly wait in queue for the company to start the process. And they must maintain their employment while they are here. If they lose their jobs, they have like 30 days to leave the US. Family based immigration is not like that.

 

Foreigners

Foreigners are coming in the USA with H1-B visas for work and H-4 visas for there wife's and children, with barely any waiting time for their direct families to enter the USA. The reason for that is because the requirements are different from work based visas to family based visas. Work based visas can sometimes be only temporary and not always intent for permanent immigration.

And while they are here in the USA, cozy with there family, they can file for a Green Card. Yet they still have requirements they have to abide by before they can apply.

They were not born in the USA nor they have a US Citizenship, and never paid taxes to uncle Sam. This is 100% not true, at ALL! 

Everybody foreigner that enters the US with H1-B and H-4 visa apply for green card while here in the US. I know since I work with many foreigners.

There families are not separated cause of a transfer to the USA. Not all foreign workers here are given permanent residence.

 

Me US Citizen

Me on the other hand. Born and raised in the US. Paid taxes for over 20 years to uncle Sam.

My Brazilian wife and kids cannot enter the US with H-4 visa, and apply for a Green Card, while here in the US with me, just like all foreigners are doing. That is not how H-4 visas work. Companies don't just give out those types of visas simply because. You have to qualify for them. What you are wanting for your wife is for her to get work authorization. That is completely different.

Me and wife and kids have been married for 8 years in Brazil, but the last 2 years and 3 months separated since I transferred back to the USA, cause of current US immigration laws. Not current. these laws and policies have been around for years. Even 8 years ago.

My family is forced to wait in Brazil, for 2 years and 3 months now(still waiting), since I transferred here. I have a Master's Degree in Math (advanced degree) and I am a Software Developer.

And only God knows when there Green Card will be done, and they can enter the USA. If your family can get tourist visas, they are more than welcome to visit the US while waiting on the process. Thousands of people visit. In fact, there is an ongoing thread on VJ of people doing it.

See my response above in red.

 

This happens a lot where someone does not have a clear understanding of the different types of visas. The above mixes benefits from different visas into the same argument. H1-B and H4 visas have different requirements than family based immigrant visas. 

Edited July 17, 2018 by NuestraUnion

[TBoneTX 45,329]

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