Islamabad Consulate interviews 2018

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On 7/21/2018 at 4:15 AM, Love To Teach said:

My advice is expect to be harassed and treated like dirt, and if you aren't, thank God. Be wary, don't let them trick you into thinking they are going to be nice. They have already decided what they are going to do. Be very careful if you are led into a room with a Pakistani CO, and they close the door. 

 

I think in hindsight my husband's mistake was expecting a civil interview, as the first CO lulled him into thinking they were going to be nice. Beware if you are taken into the "torture" chamber with a Pakistani man and don't sign anything, even if threatened. My husband didn't know (and frankly, I didn't either) that he could have had a lawyer with him or just walk out. He saw no escape from their intimidation and threats other than signing the papers they had prepared (falsely saying he is still married to his first wife). He was so muddled, he wrote what they dictated....big mistake! 

 

They honed in on him being my 5th husband, and when he didn't have a problem with that, they took advantage of his cultural guilt for being divorced. The Pakistani man screamed prayers from Islam (my husband tried to explain  to me why this particular one was so important), hurled insults, lies, accused us of paying for our papers, and basically treated him like a criminal until he broke down and did what they wanted. Thisman kept screaming at him he was still married to the woman who "gave him 4 beautiful children." (As if he would talk like that. It was so obvious it was dictated.)

 

Don't sign anything, take a lawyer if you have any red flags, stand up to their lies, and don't let them break you. They will say and do anything to deny a person. This is all pre-decided as to what they are going to do. The sad part is that the US embassy hires local people to do their dirty work.

 

Thank God, my husband got a good job in Dubai, so IF (and that's a big IF) our new CR1 (hoping to get it in by the end of this month) is approved, he will have his interview there. Many lessons learned. The CO's do not have to be civil or truthful. They are allowed to treat the interviewee like a criminal being interrogated, and interviews are not recorded (how convenient for them!).

 

Yeah, I'm bitter because this is just wrong in every way. We filed a formal complaint. I don't care if it puts a target on our back, because I teach my students to stand up to bullies, and how can I do that if I don't do the same thing? Maybe this will help someone else because they need to stop this coercion now.

 

They knew they didn't have anything on us, so they invented  a way to get my husband to crack. If it can happen to my husband, who is educated, well-traveled, professional, older, helps the Pakistan government with tourism (even with that US Embassy), and speaks English well, it can happen to anyone. Recently, again, he was asked by the US Embassy there in Islamabad to talk to their new hires about tourism. He even took them on an excursion into the mountains. (Yes, he's a lot nicer than me..lol). These visa interviews could all be held in a civil fashion.

 

I have to say that if you are both Pakistanis, Muslims, or if it is a male petitioning a female, you probably won't have problems. Some people just waltz through. It just depends on what they have decided and if you have any red flags. We thought because we are so much older than most (50's, 60's) and have been together for 7 years with now 9 visits, that we wouldn't be seen as a threat for him to immigrate.

 

They also tried a similar thing with another couple we know. Luckily, he didn't break down.

 

Good luck!!!

hello, i wish this post could have been wrote before Nov'17 so that we (including many readers) take benefit as advised. 

 

alert signs before interview in US consulate:

 

1) when you are advised to wait longer before biometrics

2) when everyone curious upon your entrance in consulate premises, what is the purpose of visiting and who sponsored you

3) when someone from behind the glass window constantly watching through every processing and keeping close eyes on you

4) when you are called in confined room for an interview and you find yourself with two gentlemen, English speaking and Urdu speaking simultaneously, are conducting interview

5) they act interrogative, hostile, rude most of the time and constantly telling you that "don't believe you" and "you are lying to them"

6) they give you paper and pen to write your statement on embassy paper then sign it

 

above mentioned sings clearly helps you recognize that you (and accompanying) are in deep trouble, because unfortunately, nobody knows how CO will treat until it is all over. everybody walk in to consulate with smile and feeling that they are about to get visa stamped in their passports but believe me this is not the case for majority.

 

she explained very well what to do and behave but unfortunately for many of us it is already too late.

[Zelixx 302]

7 hours ago, Yumnaah said:

Yeah she's here with me of course...and he does have the Nadra birth certificate. Should the Police certificate be attested? I 've heard that the forms get attested from the foreign office or something....?

Appreciate the info.! 

Police certificate doesn't need to be attested.

Following forms/documents require attestation from Ministry of foreign affairs:

1.Marriage certificate from NADRA

2.Urdu nikkah nama with english translation

3.Birth certificate from Nadra ( the original old birth cerficate along with it's english translation ,if you have ).

Edited August 2, 2018 by Zelixx

[lousiaC 374]

16 minutes ago, Zelixx said:

Police certificate doesn't need to be attested.

Following forms/documents require attestation from Ministry of foreign affairs:

1.Marriage certificate from NADRA

2.Urdu nikkah nama with english translation

3.Birth certificate from Nadra ( the original old birth cerficate along with it's english translation ,if you have ).

Is it necessary? I got it attested from notary public when submitted to nvc.. so should i get them attested from mfa also? 

[ahm12 83]

5 minutes ago, lousiaC said:

Is it necessary? I got it attested from notary public when submitted to nvc.. so should i get them attested from mfa also? 

mfa is not needed

[Zelixx 302]

3 minutes ago, lousiaC said:

Is it necessary? I got it attested from notary public when submitted to nvc.. so should i get them attested from mfa also? 

I got the above mentioned documents attested from the Notary public & Ministry of foriegn affairs aswell.Like you said earlier it's better safe than sorry.

[Zelixx 302]

May be ,

4 minutes ago, ahm12 said:

mfa is not needed

May be !!

[lousiaC 374]

6 minutes ago, Zelixx said:

I got the above mentioned documents attested from the Notary public & Ministry of foriegn affairs aswell.Like you said earlier it's better safe than sorry.

This safe/sorry game has done enough zalalat to all of us 😂😂

[Zelixx 302]

1 minute ago, lousiaC said:

This safe/sorry game has done enough zalalat to all of us 😂😂

Haha true !😁

[ahm12 83]

15 minutes ago, Zelixx said:

May be ,

May be !!

In the last 3 years four members of our family  moved to US. We never got anything attested from ministry of foreign affairs.  I don't believe anywhere in instructions it mentions for documents to be attested from Ministry of Foreign affairs.

 

There is nothing wrong with getting documents attested from the ministry but I think that's just going way overboard.

Edited August 2, 2018 by ahm12

[lousiaC 374]

1 minute ago, ahm12 said:

In the last 3 years four members of our family members moved to US. We never got anything attested from ministry of foreign affairs.  I don't believe anywhere in instructions it mentions for documents to be attested from Ministry of Foreign affairs.

 

There is nothing wrong with getting documents attested from the ministry but I think that's just going way overboard.

Thanks  you got your IL? 

[ahm12 83]

2 minutes ago, lousiaC said:

Thanks  you got your IL? 

IL meaning Immigration Lawyer ?

No we always did paperwork ourselves. I am very kanjoos to be paying $1500 to a lawyer lol

Edited August 2, 2018 by ahm12

[lousiaC 374]

1 minute ago, ahm12 said:

IL meaning Immigration Lawyer ?

No we always did paperwork ourselves. I am very kanjoos to be paying $1500 to a lawyer lol

Interview letter... we also did parhaiz of lawyer 😂

[ahm12 83]

Just now, lousiaC said:

Interview letter... we also did parhaiz of lawyer 😂

nope, no interview letter yet. I am going to wait till august 12-15. If I don't get it by then I will be calling.

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1 minute ago, ahm12 said:

nope, no interview letter yet. I am going to wait till august 12-15. If I don't get it by then I will be calling.

I am quite hopefull that you will get it by then IN SHA ALLAH. 

 

I am super stressing over status not changing to ready, i have read multiple posts in which consulate does not take interview if status is not ready saying they did not received docs from nvc 😔

[ahm12 83]

2 minutes ago, lousiaC said:

I am quite hopefull that you will get it by then IN SHA ALLAH. 

 

I am super stressing over status not changing to ready, i have read multiple posts in which consulate does not take interview if status is not ready saying they did not received docs from nvc 😔

They don't schedule interview until they receive documents.

So if you have a interview letter then everything is good.