Yes, you can visit!

[Arinlars 19]

Awesome thanks. I was thinking of having my lawyer(not immigration though) write a letter that I'm just visiting for 9 days. Too much no?

Sorry for the 20 posts lol I just get so scared reading some stories I'm like omg omg omg What if that what if this!

[Anna Grant 169]

Awesome thanks. I was thinking of having my lawyer(not immigration though) write a letter that I'm just visiting for 9 days. Too much no?

Sorry for the 20 posts lol I just get so scared reading some stories I'm like omg omg omg What if that what if this!

I totally understand what you're saying. I went through the same thoughts myself.

My immigration lawyer wrote a letter saying requesting that I be allowed the visit. Again - I didn't need any of these things but it made me feel more confident. However, I was intending to stay for 6 weeks and had stayed for 89 days over the summer. I was concerned that I would not be allowed in after only spending 8 weeks out of the US! I have now cancelled my flight as we still don;t have our NOA2 (24 July NOA1 at CSC). I will rebook it when we know more and I can start booking my medical back in London. Or I have to leave because of the 90 day rule.

Just remember. Only answer the question you are being asked - don't volunteer information e.g. if asked (which you will be) 'what is the purpose of your trip?', just answer 'vacation'. They only expect the answer 'vacation' or 'business'. If they ask who you will be staying with, then you can add 'fiance'.

However, always be truthful. Keep calm - try not to be too nervous. I'm sure you will be fine, just as I was. You are actually in a better situation than I am for coming through customs - you have a job and evidence that your employer expects you to return - an immense tie to your home country. I am unemployed (made happily redundant at the end of November).

Edited January 21, 2013 by Anna Grant

[Arinlars 19]

The last two times I went there was cool. We weren't engaged yet and I stayed two weeks and then one week. Thank you for your answer. Makes me feel better ^^

[Arinlars 19]

Found this online. https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1247/~/travel-while-k-1-fiance%2Ffiancee-visa-pending :S

[Anna Grant 169]

Found this online. https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1247/~/travel-while-k-1-fiance%2Ffiancee-visa-pending :S

Yes - that is the whole reason for this thread - yes, you can visit but you may have additional scrutiny. It is advised that you don't travel as you (and I) have already made it clear that we want to move permanently to the US by submitting our K1 petition. However, many, many people do travel with little scrutiny or problem.

You said recently about being scared about being refused entry and having to pay for a ticket back to Germany? As far as I am aware, it is your airline's responsibility to get you back and all they will do is use the return portion of your airline ticket to do that. Airlines have to do initial scrutiny at your departure airport to check that you have the correct visa to fly (and a return ticket). At Heathrow, a company called ICTS do the scrutiny.

Others who are more familiar with this particular area may want to chip in.

Edited January 22, 2013 by Anna Grant

[Arinlars 19]

You said recently about being scared about being refused entry and having to pay for a ticket back to Germany? As far as I am aware, it is your airline's responsibility to get you back and all they will do is use the return portion of your airline ticket to do that. Airlines have to do initial scrutiny at your departure airport to check that you have the correct visa to fly (and a return ticket). At Heathrow, a company called ICTS do the scrutiny.

Really? Well If that's the case then I don't care lol! I was so anxious and I'm in such stress because I thought I will get on the next available plane (any airline any plane) and with lufthansa the return ticket ALONE costs (one way) 3000 Euros!!! But the normal ticket with return costs only 500 so you see why I#m freaking out lol. I didn't know they can use the same and not pay extra.

Can someone who was denied confirm?

[Anna Grant 169]

Really? Well If that's the case then I don't care lol! I was so anxious and I'm in such stress because I thought I will get on the next available plane (any airline any plane) and with lufthansa the return ticket ALONE costs (one way) 3000 Euros!!! But the normal ticket with return costs only 500 so you see why I#m freaking out lol. I didn't know they can use the same and not pay extra.

Can someone who was denied confirm?

I can't find anything official - http://forums.immigration.com/showthread.php?307590-Who-pays-for-immediate-Return-Ticket-when-denied-entry

Hopefully someone with experience or expertise will come along to help.

[Arinlars 19]

I will call tomorrow by Lufthansa

[annerobin12 9]

Just calm down, wait and see what happens. :star: You're overthinking this whole trip! You have nothing to fear and nothing to hide. Just take your supporting documents with you and answer the questions they ask truthfully. Even if they take you to an office for further questioning, just stay calm and answer their questions. I stood there for 30 minutes answering what felt like 1000000 questions, but it wasn't a big deal in the end!

When are you leaving? How long are you staying?

[Arinlars 19]

18th February for 9 days. I drove my fiance and my mom crazy! They are like : STOP IT so much drama. I can't help it, I'm Greek we created drama lol

[annerobin12 9]

See, it's not like you're staying for almost 90 days. And the times you visited before that, you never stayed for 90 days...I believe that's the reason why they kept questioning me. I spent a year in the US, then 2 weeks, 6 weeks, 9 weeks and now almost 2.5 months. It didn't surprise me that they were suspicious!

Just relax, there will always be people who get sent back...you're making yourself nervous which is NOT helpful when you're trying to answer the officer's questions! Gather all your supporting documents, read about what other people where asked, give short answers and be honest. You're better off planning your time with your fiance instead

Good luck!

[Arinlars 19]

Thanks! No, the most time I spend time there was two weeks. And I visited twice.

[Jeikun 65]

I filed k-1 beginning of December, so not expecting NOA-2 until early May at best, we decided to visit another time while waiting. My fiancee is self-employed and is winding her business down, so can afford the time off better than I can, so she will be coming to see me in the US.

She's self-employed, as I mentioned, and lives with her parents, and her car is in their name (I think - didn't think to ask until now), so there's not much to prove "ties" should that come up. She was also thinking about bringing a bunch of clothes and things so she would have less to bring/ship when she moves here.

I can see from past experiences by members that what she encounters could range from getting waved through to having to answer a hundred questions, to being kicked out. I also see we would be lacking quite a bit of the backup evidence others have brought with them.

I plan to have her bring a hardcopy of the NOA-1, and relationship evidence on her laptop, as well as a copy of her itenerary with receipt for return ticket (only a 2 week visit). I advised her to answer everything truthfully, but not to volunteer any "extra" information when just talking to the agent in line.

Do you think it would be inadvisable for her to bring extra clothes to leave here as it might rouse suspicion? She doesn't seem worried about it in the least.

Any additional suggestions?

It won't be until the end of March, so I have time to arrange anything. I'll post back with full results afterwards.

Edited January 23, 2013 by Jeikun

[Anna Grant 169]

She should not bring loads of clothes with her for a short visit. That will ring all kinds of alarm bells with customs/immigration. Especially if she brings unseasonal clothes e.g summer clothes when visiting in March.

When I came in for 6 weeks in December, I traveled reasonably light - just under the allowed weight. Customs did look down at my luggage as if to ascertain whether it was appropriate for a 6 week visit over Christmas - see my full report at beginning of December in this thread. I am still here as we still have not got our NOA2 despite it being 6 months tomorrow since we got our NOA1 from CSC.

Edited January 23, 2013 by Anna Grant

[A&P_Germany 8]

18th February for 9 days. I drove my fiance and my mom crazy! They are like : STOP IT so much drama. I can't help it, I'm Greek we created drama lol

My fiancee is flying in from Frankfurt on Feb 14 to Detroit, hopefully there will be no issues! (I will give an update if any issues do arise)

Edited January 27, 2013 by ashah000