visa tourist B214

[Hartford 1]

I’m us citizen and my wife she as well .we applied for visa tourist  for my mother in law father in law and sister in law under 18 years old,we fill out ds160  and i134 we sent  invitaion lettre staying that we can provide all cost of food health insurance and everything. My mother in law and father in law own house in morocco  they provide title of property, the have enough money on therie bank my mother in law wok for government   over 20 years she provide work verification form  her employer , I submit my incom tax returns with bank statements form my booth banks in USA but the consulat denied there visa under reason that.214 My parent don’t have enough ties to morocco Really. Over 20 years of work ,own house in morocco  ,had money in bank  plus my bank Statment.  Can reapply  again and resubmit new ds 160 and all the paperwork  or should I call the consulta for next step this was back 6 month ago thanks 

Edited July 9, 2018 by Hartford

[Crazy Cat 42,236]

You can not sponsor anyone for a tourist visa.  They have to show that they can support themselves, and they have to show very strong ties to their country.  The CO wasn't satisfied that they meet those requirements.......

 

They can try again, but the denial will be on their record.

Edited July 9, 2018 by missileman

[geowrian 22,338]

A couple notes...

1. You didn't apply for any tourist visas. They did. You can help fill out the forms, but they're the ones who must have actually applied and are responsible for all the information on them,
2. You cannot sponsor a tourist visa. The I-134 and invitation letters had no impact on their cases. they were denied based on their individual merits.
   1. See https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visitor.html:
      "Note: Visa applicants must qualify on the basis of the applicant's residence and ties abroad, rather than assurances from U.S. family and friends. A letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support is not needed to apply for a visitor visa. If you choose to bring a letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support to your interview, please remember it is not one of the factors used in determining whether to issue or deny the visa."
3. They are free to apply again at any time. However, unless there is a change in circumstances, expect the same result.
4. There is no appeal for 214b (immigrant intent).

[florida racer 73 200]

3 minutes ago, Hartford said:

I’m us citizen and my wife she as well .we applied for visa tourist  for my mother in law father in law and sister in law under 18 years old,we fill out ds160  and i134 we sent  invitaion lettre staying that we can provide all cost of food health insurance and everything. My mother in law and father in law own house in morocco  they provide title of property, the have enough money on therie bank my mother in law wok for government   over 20 years she provide work verification form  her employer , I submit my incom tax returns with bank statements form my booth banks in USA but the consulat denied there visa under reason that.214 My parent don’t have enough ties to morocco Really. Over 20 years of work ,own house in morocco  ,had money in bank  plus my bank Statment.  Can reapply  again and resubmit new ds 160 and all the paperwork  or should I call the consulta for next step this was back 6 month ago thanks 

The only thing that comes to mind is the co believed that there was immigrant intent, possibly because of the invitation letter, saying that you would provide for them, parents not working/retired. A property can be sold when overseas and a bank account can be withdrawn also while overseas.

 

the visitors visa is about the parents and their ties to the country to ensure that after their time is up that they return home.

 

i think the excessive amount of documents that you submitted gave the co a good reason to deny them because it showed that you  could support them and it would be very easy for them to come on a tourist visa and adjust status and stay.

 

remember, they can apply again but there will be a record of this denial and future applications may have the same results

[Amadia 711]

You are unable to appeal a denial for Intent to Immigrate:

 

Section 214(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) states:

Every alien shall be presumed to be an immigrant until he establishes to the satisfaction of the consular officer, at the time of application for admission, that he is entitled to a non-immigrant status.”

 

All the evidence of bank accounts, property ownership, permanent employment, etc. does not guarantee that anyone would be approved a tourist visa. Every embassy in the world has a quota of approvals and denials to fulfill....that is the harsh reality.

 

Also, the tourist visa is for your parents to prove their ties and should not have included ANY documentation from you except the invitation letter. Like @florida racer 73 mentioned previously, too many documents from you proved to the officer reviewing the file that you are able to financially support them.

 

They would just have to retry at another time (maybe allow a year to pass).

[Hartford 1]

2 hours ago, florida racer 73 said:

The only thing that comes to mind is the co believed that there was immigrant intent, possibly because of the invitation letter, saying that you would provide for them, parents not working/retired. A property can be sold when overseas and a bank account can be withdrawn also while overseas.

 

the visitors visa is about the parents and their ties to the country to ensure that after their time is up that they return home.

 

i think the excessive amount of documents that you submitted gave the co a good reason to deny them because it showed that you  could support them and it would be very easy for them to come on a tourist visa and adjust status and stay.

 

remember, they can apply again but there will be a record of this denial and future applications may have the same results

Thank you very much for your assistance that could be  reason for deniel.do you suggest reapply again for my mother in law only,because I could easily apply for green card but she not interested on staying longer she only wants to visit us here on usa

[Hartford 1]

1 hour ago, Amadia said:

You are unable to appeal a denial for Intent to Immigrate:

 

Section 214(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) states:

Every alien shall be presumed to be an immigrant until he establishes to the satisfaction of the consular officer, at the time of application for admission, that he is entitled to a non-immigrant status.”

 

All the evidence of bank accounts, property ownership, permanent employment, etc. does not guarantee that anyone would be approved a tourist visa. Every embassy in the world has a quota of approvals and denials to fulfill....that is the harsh reality.

 

Also, the tourist visa is for your parents to prove their ties and should not have included ANY documentation from you except the invitation letter. Like @florida racer 73 mentioned previously, too many documents from you proved to the officer reviewing the file that you are able to financially support them.

 

They would just have to retry at another time (maybe allow a year to pass).

Thanks for your time most of the embassy around the world have number of visas to issue under certain standards 

[TBoneTX 46,083]

Thread is moved from the K-1 Process forum to the Tourist Visas forum.

[Hartford 1]

2 hours ago, florida racer 73 said:

The only thing that comes to mind is the co believed that there was immigrant intent, possibly because of the invitation letter, saying that you would provide for them, parents not working/retired. A property can be sold when overseas and a bank account can be withdrawn also while overseas.

 

the visitors visa is about the parents and their ties to the country to ensure that after their time is up that they return home.

 

i think the excessive amount of documents that you submitted gave the co a good reason to deny them because it showed that you  could support them and it would be very easy for them to come on a tourist visa and adjust status and stay.

 

remember, they can apply again but there will be a record of this denial and future applications may have the same results

 

2 hours ago, missileman said:

You can not sponsor anyone for a tourist visa.  They have to show that they can support themselves, and they have to show very strong ties to their country.  The CO wasn't satisfied that they meet those requirements.......

 

They can try again, but the denial will be on their record.

Thanks 

 

2 hours ago, geowrian said:

A couple notes...

1. You didn't apply for any tourist visas. They did. You can help fill out the forms, but they're the ones who must have actually applied and are responsible for all the information on them,
2. You cannot sponsor a tourist visa. The I-134 and invitation letters had no impact on their cases. they were denied based on their individual merits.
   1. See https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visitor.html:
      "Note: Visa applicants must qualify on the basis of the applicant's residence and ties abroad, rather than assurances from U.S. family and friends. A letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support is not needed to apply for a visitor visa. If you choose to bring a letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support to your interview, please remember it is not one of the factors used in determining whether to issue or deny the visa."
3. They are free to apply again at any time. However, unless there is a change in circumstances, expect the same result.
4. There is no appeal for 214b (immigrant intent).

Thanks

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

Morocco is a tough embassy to get visas from. Your/spouse USC status may have given the CO pause that they were risks to overstay and Adjust. Applying for just one, instead of three, is not a change in circumstance.  Were the invitation letter, i134 even looked at?

 

If the inlaws have plans to immigrate to the US down the road, this is a good time to consider petitioning them. Or it may take multiple efforts for a B2 IF they have absolutely no plans to immigrate.  How long has your wife been a USC? 

[CappuccinoMo 48]

i know some people who applied 1 week after being denied and got approved! others didn't...Casablanca is for sure the toughest Consulate i live here and i hear nonsense stories every time

i myself applied for a tourist visa months before my marriage and got denied, because  i speak good English, i have enough money and work for an american company for more than 13years,  all the arguments i thought would help me have the visa  you see! lot of non sense, i had no intend to immigrate i just wanted to visit my fiance (now husband) family and meet them. they actually expect from applicant to be honest well we are but it doesn't convince the CO anyway 

Now i can't wait to have this question during my interview : (did you meet with your family's husband) awww sorry i would like to but my tourist visa got denied.

 

1st option : i Would suggest to re apply (if the fees won't be an issue) but as said above, no affidavit of support or any other document from you, they can submit the DS160 by their own, mention your address and simply explain to the CO that they just want to visit as a "Family" it's cultural, when a Moroccan family travel on vacation every member of the family is travelling! 

2nd option : maybe just the parents can re apply as for your sister in law under 18 may look as "Immigrant" profile 

 

Good luck