Notice of intent to revoke need advise

[AfricanQ 241]

So sorry to hear this. This is crazy!....1. U have been to Ghana many times. 2. You have a child together for God sake....So why does it matter if family dattend the wedding or not or  if he don't remember or know how to explain his answer during the interview. Ur trips and having a child shows the marriage is real. Pls. Don't refill gather EVERY document u have n fight it.....u can win!

 

1.Letters from family and friends explaining their support.

2. Passport stamps of all ur trips from ur 1st trip to it last include ur daughter information as well, boarding passes etc

3. Write a letter abt ur marriage n how u have a child together , u took her to see her father for her bday...etc...

4. Birth certificate of ur child

5. DNA if possible

6 Joint account

7. Call log, text email everything

8. Pics from all ur trip dated 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 11, 2018 by Ryan H
Reason for edit: to remove triple posting.

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

13 minutes ago, AfricanQ said:

So sorry to hear this. This is crazy!....1. U have been to Ghana many times. 2. You have a child together for God sake....So why does it matter if family dattend the wedding or not or  if he don't remember or know how to explain his answer during the interview. Ur trips and having a child shows the marriage is real. Pls. Don't refill gather EVERY document u have n fight it.....u can win!

 

1.Letters from family and friends explaining their support.

2. Passport stamps of all ur trips from ur 1st trip to it last include ur daughter information as well, boarding passes etc

3. Write a letter abt ur marriage n how u have a child together , u took her to see her father for her bday...etc...

4. Birth certificate of ur child

5. DNA if possible

6 Joint account

7. Call log, text email everything

8. Pics from all ur trip dated 

 

The problem seems to be (from what the OP posted) that the husband didn't know anything about his wife's life in the US, how their wedding was planned or conducted, the supposed 6 months of marriage counseling, etc.  It appears to me that the Consulate Officer saw a huge disconnect between the two people in this marriage.  I'm not sure that a letter from the US citizen, herself, explaining what the husband didn't know will work.  I think it is time for a seasoned immigration attorney to work toward fixing this .

 

 

[Joetan 18]

1 hour ago, missileman said:

The problem seems to be (from what the OP posted) that the husband didn't know anything about his wife's life in the US, how their wedding was planned or conducted, the supposed 6 months of marriage counseling, etc.  It appears to me that the Consulate Officer saw a huge disconnect between the two people in this marriage.  I'm not sure that a letter from the US citizen, herself, explaining what the husband didn't know will work.  I think it is time for a seasoned immigration attorney to work toward fixing this .

 

 

No thats not true i dont know if i did not explain it so it could be understood by everyone but the Five Points that I post it was what the USCIS said the counselor said to them but I'm saying that the counselor has lied on my husband they never asked him these questions out of the Five Points that was listed he was only asked one of those which was why my family did not attend and he explained it to the officer the officer decided to send the case back and put all these other things as if to say he had asked my husband this my husband may not be as aggressive as me but he sure is not that dumb to stand up there and don't know nothing these questions would never ask to him it is a lie just as others have stated that they have been accused of things that was not true so hopefully whoever replies to my questions will now have a clear understanding of what I'm saying these were lies

[pushbrk 12,877]

You cannot rely on anybody believing the Consular Officer lied.  Two people know what happened and what the truth is.  Only one of those two people has any motivation to lie, and it is NOT the Consular Officer.

[Joetan 18]

3 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

You cannot rely on anybody believing the Consular Officer lied.  Two people know what happened and what the truth is.  Only one of those two people has any motivation to lie, and it is NOT the Consular Officer.

So what's the point exactly all I want to do is find out how to overcome the issue at hand the reason why I even address that the counselor adding things that was not true is because others have also but in the same situation where when they got their notice of intent to revoke it happens on there that did not take place however that did not stop them from addressing the issue so I'm trying to figure out how to address the issue so that I can get my reaffirm that's it and that's the point I need and that's the point I'm trying to make

[pushbrk 12,877]

4 minutes ago, Joetan said:

So what's the point exactly all I want to do is find out how to overcome the issue at hand the reason why I even address that the counselor adding things that was not true is because others have also but in the same situation where when they got their notice of intent to revoke it happens on there that did not take place however that did not stop them from addressing the issue so I'm trying to figure out how to address the issue so that I can get my reaffirm that's it and that's the point I need and that's the point I'm trying to make

Ultimately, you will address the issues to the best of your ability.  I'm just saying that you cannot rely on anybody at USCIS or the Consulate believing the Consular Officer lied, and just made up things that didn't happen.  This BECAUSE, there is no plausible reason for the Consular Officer to lie.  If you think otherwise, then please tell us the what you think is a plausible reason for a Consular Officer to lie about YOUR case, when they do multiple visa interviews every working day of their careers.

[Joetan 18]

4 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Ultimately, you will address the issues to the best of your ability.  I'm just saying that you cannot rely on anybody at USCIS or the Consulate believing the Consular Officer lied, and just made up things that didn't happen.  This BECAUSE, there is no plausible reason for the Consular Officer to lie.  If you think otherwise, then please tell us the what you think is a plausible reason for a Consular Officer to lie about YOUR case, when they do multiple visa interviews every working day of their careers.

 your guess is as good as mine however I am not the only one that has had this problem others have also when they got their notice of intent to deny had issues with things that were listed on that letter that did not take place I was only mentioning it not to convince anyone here or the USCIS but to seek advice from my fellow members knowing that others have had issues like this so they would be able to advise me I tried to be totally transparent so I can get the best ideas my husband is not perfect but he sure is not that dumb to go and stand in front of the counselor and not know these simple questions if that was the case it wouldn't be worth fighting for him to come if he was that stupid so that's all I'm saying but thank you so much for your replies

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

12 minutes ago, Joetan said:

So what's the point exactly all I want to do is find out how to overcome the issue at hand the reason why I even address that the counselor adding things that was not true is because others have also but in the same situation where when they got their notice of intent to revoke it happens on there that did not take place however that did not stop them from addressing the issue so I'm trying to figure out how to address the issue so that I can get my reaffirm that's it and that's the point I need and that's the point I'm trying to make

Have you talked to an immigration attorney or immigration specialist (other than the immigration specialist who just replied to you) ?

[Joetan 18]

2 minutes ago, missileman said:

Have you talked to an immigration attorney or immigration specialist (other than the immigration specialist who just replied to you) ?

No I have not talk to any immigration attorney due to the fact that right now with my child care cost and bills on my head I don't have the money to be honest

[pushbrk 12,877]

Nobody is suggesting you not seek advice here.  Nobody is saying others haven't "had issues" like this to deal with.  What I am saying directly is that since the degree and types of motivation to lie exists to a far greater degree with the visa applicant than the Consular Officer, I usually find that in successful cases, the visa applicant eventually comes clean after a "come to Jesus" kind of discussion with their spouse.

[Joetan 18]

11 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Ultimately, you will address the issues to the best of your ability.  I'm just saying that you cannot rely on anybody at USCIS or the Consulate believing the Consular Officer lied, and just made up things that didn't happen.  This BECAUSE, there is no plausible reason for the Consular Officer to lie.  If you think otherwise, then please tell us the what you think is a plausible reason for a Consular Officer to lie about YOUR case, when they do multiple visa interviews every working day of their careers.

 another point is I don't know if buy them doing numerous interviews if they mix up what happened at that particular interview with someone else's I have no idea all I want to do is to present the evidence to USCIS with a Clean Heart of Mine so that I can get the victory at the end of the day I have evidence to back up  our bona fide marriage however what got me stuck was how do I address or should I say explain why my husband could not answer the questions because at this point as you said I can't tell USCIS that so I don't know how to start the rebuttal off because it's just like I will be accepting what the counselor said happened at the interview that my husband was a dummy which I know is not true he was only asked three questions and out of the Five Points that USCIS sent me only one of those questions is on there I hope I'm making myself clear enough to understand so basically I have all my evidence but I'm looking for the wording or idea of how to address

[pushbrk 12,877]

Then, in my opinion, it is time for you to have a "come to Jesus" talk with your husband.

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

6 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Nobody is suggesting you not seek advice here.  Nobody is saying others haven't "had issues" like this to deal with.  What I am saying directly is that since the degree and types of motivation to lie exists to a far greater degree with the visa applicant than the Consular Officer, I usually find that in successful cases, the visa applicant eventually comes clean after a "come to Jesus" kind of discussion with their spouse.

In your opinion, in a very difficult case like this, what is the value of appealing the decision vs refilling and preparing the applicant for the interview?

[Joetan 18]

6 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Nobody is suggesting you not seek advice here.  Nobody is saying others haven't "had issues" like this to deal with.  What I am saying directly is that since the degree and types of motivation to lie exists to a far greater degree with the visa applicant than the Consular Officer, I usually find that in successful cases, the visa applicant eventually comes clean after a "come to Jesus" kind of discussion with their spouse.

 I understand what you are saying and I'm not accusing anyone and believe me when I got this letter in the mail I called him I've been drilling him for the past year plus to make sure of what took place it had me second-guessing when I seen all these points but then I said let me ask him again once again it was only the three questions he told me I was not there however to be honest with you he is not the smartest person but like I said he can't be that dumb the questions were too simple and he had loads of evidence in his hand so that's why I said no it has to be a mix up thanks for your reply believe me I drilled him myself because with all my trips evidence the birth of our child affidavit it made no sense

[pushbrk 12,877]

11 hours ago, missileman said:

In your opinion, in a very difficult case like this, what is the value of appealing the decision vs refilling and preparing the applicant for the interview?

They are not at any appeal stage yet.  They will be responding to a NOIR hoping for reaffirmation of the petition approval.  Since refiling won't solve any of the issues, and will require payment of all fees again, I see no value in refiling at all.