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2 minutes ago, Rob and Cheryl said:

 

http://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/397239-polling-editor-increased-support-for-russia-among-republicans

'RealClearPolitics Washington editor Carl Cannon called increased support for Russia among Republicans "disturbing" on Monday. 

He also said the reason for the increased GOP support is related to President Trump's criticisms of the investigation of the 2016 presidential election. 

"There's one other variable, and this is a little bit disturbing. In 2014, 22 percent of Republicans said that Russia was an ally, this was from a Gallup poll. That number's now 40 percent," Cannon told Hill.TV's Joe Concha on "What America's Thinking," referring to two Gallup polls on American attitudes toward Moscow. 

"Now, what's happened in four years? Well, nothing good. Russia solidified its annexation of Crimea. Its separatists armed by [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's army shot down a passenger airline, killed a bunch of Dutch children. ... The Russians have apparently continued to assassinate people on British soil. That number shouldn't go up among Republicans, and it has," he said"

Didn't that all occur during the previous administration? 

 

Putin is a thug and quite frankly Russia is still suffering from the effects of Communism/Socialism.  Heck, I just returned from there after visiting family and the city where we visit sucks from an urban planning perspective.  To my knowledge, all the past presidents have campaigned on increasing favorable ties with Russia, Bush and Obama were in no ways tough on Russia.  I still fail to see how all this over the top reaction to a silly press conference indicates the US is now a Russian puppet state.  Didn't Trump and his team strengthen NATO just before the Putin meeting?

 

In my opinion, if more Republicans are reacting to Trump's criticism of the investigation it has more to do with the unsubstantiated collusion narrative that has all but been put away with the Rosenstein announcement.

 

I just wonder where all the outrage was when Ted Kennedy actively sought Soviet interference back in the '80's to try and defeat Reagan.

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3 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

I am under the impression your opinions in the time of Reagan are akin to your opionions of Trump in the present

Reagan wouldn't even be recognized in today's GOP, he'd be considered a RINO by Trump supporters.

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2 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Wow, for Seventy years the USA and it's Western Allies stood together to stop Nazism and Communist USSR. They fought and died together, but all of that doesn't matter anymore because we can just be friends with our enemy because our President says so, just so delusion.

Btw, didn't Roosevelt meet with Stalin during WWII in our combined efforts to defeat Nazism?  Just saying. 

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Btw, didn't Roosevelt meet with Stalin during WWII in our combined efforts to defeat Nazism?  Just saying. 

False equivalence but that was another good attempt at Whataboutism that the Trump supporters are so good at doing.

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4 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Wow, for Seventy years the USA and it's Western Allies stood together to stop Nazism and Communist USSR. They fought and died together, but all of that doesn't matter anymore because we can just be friends with our enemy because our President says so, just so delusion.

Western Europe like France, Germany, Italy I am pretty sure they were not allies of the US in 1941, if you mean dying beside us I assume you meant as they were being killed by our troops

 

 

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1 minute ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Out of necessity, he did. However Roosevelt didn't put his faith in Stalin over our own intelligence agencies and allies.

The fact he is equating Roosevelt to Trump is just insulting.

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Just now, JimandChristy said:

False equivalence but that was another good attempt at Whataboutism that the Trump supporters are so good at doing.

You said American and its allies fought Nazism, wasn't the USSR one of those allies?

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4 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Reagan wouldn't even be recognized in today's GOP, he'd be considered a RINO by Trump supporters.

Remember Clinton's opinion on immigrants when he was president, he would be villified today .. times change

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

You said American and its allies fought Nazism, wasn't the USSR one of those allies?

Cold War ring any bells?

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2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Out of necessity, he did. However Roosevelt didn't put his faith in Stalin over our own intelligence agencies and allies.

Sure, and Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan etc., all met with Soviet/Russian leaders out of necessity.  I still am not convinced Trump believes Putin over the US intelligence agencies and a silly press conference does not really prove that. 

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Sure, and Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan etc., all met with Soviet/Russian leaders out of necessity.  I still am not convinced Trump believes Putin over the US intelligence agencies and a silly press conference does not really prove that. 

 

  His actions have never shown anything to contradict that in any way either. 

 

   

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3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sure, and Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan etc., all met with Soviet/Russian leaders out of necessity.  I still am not convinced Trump believes Putin over the US intelligence agencies and a silly press conference does not really prove that. 

:lol: Clearly he does, he's been on Putin's side on this matter since he got elected. He's in Putin's pocket.

 

What makes it scary is he met with him alone for two hours. You'd be pretty much guarantee Putin was recording that meeting to use as possible leverage against Trump and the USA. 

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