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Filed: IR-5 Country: Ukraine
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Ok, so my mom went to the embassy yesterday to get her tourist visa to be able to come and visit me and she got a standard denial, 214b.

I am a GCH married to a USC.

She is 45 years old woman, a doctor, employed ful time, has been working as a doctor for 20 years now. Her and my dad own 2 houses, a land and 2 cars. My mom has my grandma to take care of at home (my grandma's health is not the best). She also was leaving my sister who is 16 and my dad in her home country. She wanted to come and visit for 4 weeks and that's what we put on dS160.

So at the interview, she was asked:

why is she going to states?

how long has her daughter been there (2 years)

Does she have any other kids?

Who is paying for the trip? (We stated on ds160 that I was paying for her)

 

 

After that she received a denial. She had all the documents ready to show and she was offering but she was not allowed to. 

Plus at the end when she asked for an advice what she can improve she was told: "nothing, maybe once your daughter is a citizen you can apply"

 

My question is is it worth it to try to apply second time now and maybe another officer would be kind enough to look at the proofs?

 

Can my husband, a US citizen, herson-in-law attend interview with her? He is a police officer as well.

 

I know this time we would say that she pays for herself, that's probably the only think she could change, maybe asking to come for 2 weeks instead of 4? 

 

I don't know.. I need your advice..

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5 minutes ago, O&R said:

Ok, so my mom went to the embassy yesterday to get her tourist visa to be able to come and visit me and she got a standard denial, 214b.

I am a GCH married to a USC.

She is 45 years old woman, a doctor, employed ful time, has been working as a doctor for 20 years now. Her and my dad own 2 houses, a land and 2 cars. My mom has my grandma to take care of at home (my grandma's health is not the best). She also was leaving my sister who is 16 and my dad in her home country. She wanted to come and visit for 4 weeks and that's what we put on dS160.

So at the interview, she was asked:

why is she going to states?

how long has her daughter been there (2 years)

Does she have any other kids?

Who is paying for the trip? (We stated on ds160 that I was paying for her)

 

 

After that she received a denial. She had all the documents ready to show and she was offering but she was not allowed to. 

Plus at the end when she asked for an advice what she can improve she was told: "nothing, maybe once your daughter is a citizen you can apply"

 

My question is is it worth it to try to apply second time now and maybe another officer would be kind enough to look at the proofs?

 

Can my husband, a US citizen, herson-in-law attend interview with her? He is a police officer as well.

 

I know this time we would say that she pays for herself, that's probably the only think she could change, maybe asking to come for 2 weeks instead of 4? 

 

I don't know.. I need your advice..

Did you, by chance, have her arraigned to take care of your kids while she's here? That could be grounds for the denial, as she'd technically be working/taking away a childcare job. Just trying to problem solve. Also, they don't need to see any documents at the interview - they should all be submitted in advance if you want them to be considered. Unless anything changes, I see a similar outcome. And no, your husband attending would carry no weight in the decision.

Filed: IR-5 Country: Ukraine
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Hi, GreatDane, 

No, we don't even have kids, she was saying her reason is to visit her daughter, she how she lives, meet the in-laws. So nothing in particular.

And how do you submit them upfront? In Ukraine you are not required to submit those thus you bring them to the interview and try to show it to the officer. Am I wrong?

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Perhaps best for you to visit her.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: IR-5 Country: Ukraine
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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Perhaps best for you to visit her.

Well, I going back to Ukraine to see them in August, but I just can't get over the fact that they don't even care to look at her application. And none of us never had any problem with any law, we pay our taxes and stuff, and they just treated my mom like she is some kind of criminal, or me, like I'm in prison and not allowed visitors until I'm a citizen.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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I would imagine the Citizen bit was that you could petition her to immigrate.

 

Why do you think they did not read the application?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted
3 minutes ago, O&R said:

Well, I going back to Ukraine to see them in August, but I just can't get over the fact that they don't even care to look at her application. And none of us never had any problem with any law, we pay our taxes and stuff, and they just treated my mom like she is some kind of criminal, or me, like I'm in prison and not allowed visitors until I'm a citizen.

Being a USC would likely make it even harder IMO (since you could petition them for permanent residency immediately).

 

They did look at the application, but they weren't convinced of her non-immigrant intent as required by law.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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5 minutes ago, O&R said:

Well I can't possible imagine what the problem was beside the human factor...

It is a human issue.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Vietnam
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No one - Embassy handles and adjudicates visas I’m afraid. 

 

 

ROC Timeline

Service Center: Vermont

90 Day Window Opened....08/08/17

I-751 Packet Sent..............08/14/17

NO1 Dated.........................

NO1 Received....................

Check Cashed....................

Biometrics Received..........

Biometrics Appointment.....

Approved...........................

 

IR-1/CR-1 Visa

I-130 NOA1: 22 Dec 2014
I-130 NOA2: 25 Jan 2015
NVC Received: 06 Feb 2015
Pay AOS Bill: 07 Mar 2015
Pay IV Bill : 20 Mar 2015
Send IV/AOS Package: 23 Mar 2015
Submit DS-261: 26 Mar 2015
Case Completed at NVC: 24 Apr 2015
Interview Date: 22 Sep 2015
Visa Approved: 22 Sep 2015
Visa Received: 03 Oct 2015 

Posted

There's nobody to contact to overrule or appeal a 214(b) refusal. That's entirely a decision made by the CO.

The only option is to apply again, although I would not expect a different result without a change in circumstances.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted
34 minutes ago, O&R said:

Who is paying for the trip? (We stated on ds160 that I was paying for her)

This part may have hurt her chances actually.

 

Considering she is a doctor in her home country, employed full time. owns 2 homes, cars, etc. and has been working in a professional job for more than 20 years...seems reasonable for a CO to assume she is able to fund her trip herself.  Even myself reading that part made me think aloud "why would you be funding her trip instead of herself?"

 

While there is nothing wrong with helping out a parent financially...when it comes to tourist visas it can also make a CO presume that you are able/willing to continue to support her financially should she choose to overstay.

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

 
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