Regarding the Aussiewench Topic

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

As was said in the chatroom today it is great that there are so many sites of all flavors. The issue was mainly copied content several months ago that started all this. Things are probably better now so really this issue just got out of hand and was overblown due to so much speculation and misunderstanding. If I was not the best then I can be faulted surely. I do try hard and sometimes I guess I do not do everything perfect. :\. I will try harder.

[MichelleandCraig 1]

I do believe you made a *very* wrong decision, Captain,and one that I would never have made, but I will also say that no one is perfect(certainly not me!) and I think for the most part you do a fantastic job with this place. As has been said numerous times, there is certainly room for everyone and Lorelle has created a fantastic site as well. I will be proud to frequent both boards, and I really hope this can be sorted out between the two of you...this site would suffer a great loss if Aussie were to not ever come back here again. (F) M.

Edited May 11, 2007 by MichelleandCraig

[Marilyn. 340]

in chat today, ewok mentioned that he was never against the other site...

he just noticed that some things from that site seemed to be copied straight from VJ but now they have fixed that .... and he wasn't aware that it was AW's site at first....

everything just got blown out of proportion...

Edited May 11, 2007 by MarilynP

[MichelleandCraig 1]

Well, I mentioned that I wasn't in chat...actually wasn't even questioning the Cap here...just stating my POV. M.

[JayJay 4]

VvvavaaaaaaaAAtt iz goin' on 'ere???????

Okay, so I leave for like...um...a coupla weeks and everything explodes?

And what is all this organizer stuff? Wooah everything is changing....I am an oldie..I need to get back on track!

[TracyTN 237]

I would like to believe this can be sorted out.

In my opinion, that remains to be seen.

When the atmosphere of this community returns to one of a place of exchange of information, rather than a place for entertainment and a playground for the bored - then some of the 'healing' can begin.

I do not understand why two, three, ten or ten thousand message boards cannot exist freely on the web, especially when they are about a SERVICE offered by the US government. This isn't Bill Gates or Thomas Edison with top-secret inventions. It's immigration.

As for my participation today, I regret that I descended to the same level of behavior I find so abhorrent. My incredulousness at what had happened got the best of me. But - I will no longer try to refrain myself (as I have many many times) from calling a spade a spade. If that's 'spiraling' then hey - crucify me.

Or censor me.

Censor you - right! We'd need one active moderator first.

I agree wholeheartedly about VJ becoming more of a playground for the bored, but clearly that isn't going to change. The shiny red bow that was put on everything yesterday is what it is. Aussiewench wasn't even in that chat which I just find laughable. But hey, whatever works and makes the masses happy.

I'm just glad there's another place for me to go. Oh and the URL for FBI is still altered when I try to put it in my sig.

Laters!

[Marilyn. 340]

Well, I mentioned that I wasn't in chat...actually wasn't even questioning the Cap here...just stating my POV. M.

i know and I wasn't questioning your opinion, sorry if it came off that way ....

[Marilyn. 340]

I would like to believe this can be sorted out.

In my opinion, that remains to be seen.

When the atmosphere of this community returns to one of a place of exchange of information, rather than a place for entertainment and a playground for the bored - then some of the 'healing' can begin.

I do not understand why two, three, ten or ten thousand message boards cannot exist freely on the web, especially when they are about a SERVICE offered by the US government. This isn't Bill Gates or Thomas Edison with top-secret inventions. It's immigration.

As for my participation today, I regret that I descended to the same level of behavior I find so abhorrent. My incredulousness at what had happened got the best of me. But - I will no longer try to refrain myself (as I have many many times) from calling a spade a spade. If that's 'spiraling' then hey - crucify me.

Or censor me.

Censor you - right! We'd need one active moderator first.

I agree wholeheartedly about VJ becoming more of a playground for the bored, but clearly that isn't going to change. The shiny red bow that was put on everything yesterday is what it is. Aussiewench wasn't even in that chat which I just find laughable. But hey, whatever works and makes the masses happy.

I'm just glad there's another place for me to go. Oh and the URL for FBI is still altered when I try to put it in my sig.

Laters!

it was discussed in chat that Ewok plans to have a talk with AW to try and straighten this out... we told Ewok that is what he should do and he agreed, we will see what happens...

IMO, I really don't think this had anything to do with censorship but just a misunderstanding ......

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Misunderstandings happen all the time in life..... it is not what was misunderstood that is important here it is what is seen to be done to make things right....

Kez

[Marilyn. 340]

Misunderstandings happen all the time in life..... it is not what was misunderstood that is important here it is what is seen to be done to make things right....

Kez

I agree with you there...

Ewok did take AW off of the ban..... we will see what happens from there....

[TracyTN 237]

I would like to believe this can be sorted out.

In my opinion, that remains to be seen.

When the atmosphere of this community returns to one of a place of exchange of information, rather than a place for entertainment and a playground for the bored - then some of the 'healing' can begin.

I do not understand why two, three, ten or ten thousand message boards cannot exist freely on the web, especially when they are about a SERVICE offered by the US government. This isn't Bill Gates or Thomas Edison with top-secret inventions. It's immigration.

As for my participation today, I regret that I descended to the same level of behavior I find so abhorrent. My incredulousness at what had happened got the best of me. But - I will no longer try to refrain myself (as I have many many times) from calling a spade a spade. If that's 'spiraling' then hey - crucify me.

Or censor me.

Censor you - right! We'd need one active moderator first.

I agree wholeheartedly about VJ becoming more of a playground for the bored, but clearly that isn't going to change. The shiny red bow that was put on everything yesterday is what it is. Aussiewench wasn't even in that chat which I just find laughable. But hey, whatever works and makes the masses happy.

I'm just glad there's another place for me to go. Oh and the URL for FBI is still altered when I try to put it in my sig.

Laters!

it was discussed in chat that Ewok plans to have a talk with AW to try and straighten this out... we told Ewok that is what he should do and he agreed, we will see what happens...

IMO, I really don't think this had anything to do with censorship but just a misunderstanding ......

I know that, I'm not dim.

I just think it was silly to not have her there and solve it all in one fail swoop.

And I believe I said yesterday that it seemed like a miscommunication, so that isn't lost on me either.

[Marilyn. 340]

I would like to believe this can be sorted out.

In my opinion, that remains to be seen.

When the atmosphere of this community returns to one of a place of exchange of information, rather than a place for entertainment and a playground for the bored - then some of the 'healing' can begin.

I do not understand why two, three, ten or ten thousand message boards cannot exist freely on the web, especially when they are about a SERVICE offered by the US government. This isn't Bill Gates or Thomas Edison with top-secret inventions. It's immigration.

As for my participation today, I regret that I descended to the same level of behavior I find so abhorrent. My incredulousness at what had happened got the best of me. But - I will no longer try to refrain myself (as I have many many times) from calling a spade a spade. If that's 'spiraling' then hey - crucify me.

Or censor me.

Censor you - right! We'd need one active moderator first.

I agree wholeheartedly about VJ becoming more of a playground for the bored, but clearly that isn't going to change. The shiny red bow that was put on everything yesterday is what it is. Aussiewench wasn't even in that chat which I just find laughable. But hey, whatever works and makes the masses happy.

I'm just glad there's another place for me to go. Oh and the URL for FBI is still altered when I try to put it in my sig.

Laters!

it was discussed in chat that Ewok plans to have a talk with AW to try and straighten this out... we told Ewok that is what he should do and he agreed, we will see what happens...

IMO, I really don't think this had anything to do with censorship but just a misunderstanding ......

I know that, I'm not dim.

I just think it was silly to not have her there and solve it all in one fail swoop.

And I believe I said yesterday that it seemed like a miscommunication, so that isn't lost on me either.

I wasn't calling you dim, sorry if it sounded like that .... just stating my opinion...

nothing was really solved in chat either, we told Ewok he should talk to AW and sort this out with her.... I just realized that is what I just said, sorry, still half asleep over here

Edited May 11, 2007 by MarilynP

[JayJay 4]

Okay, I still have no idea what's going on...

[Fandango 1,439]

But since AW was away from her computer, I think Ewok was just coming in to calm everyone else down...don't think he could have just left it to stew. People would be calling for his head, and he can't really control that AW was busy.

I hope he and AW settle this today

[chri'stina 190]

I would like to believe this can be sorted out.

In my opinion, that remains to be seen.

When the atmosphere of this community returns to one of a place of exchange of information, rather than a place for entertainment and a playground for the bored - then some of the 'healing' can begin.

I do not understand why two, three, ten or ten thousand message boards cannot exist freely on the web, especially when they are about a SERVICE offered by the US government. This isn't Bill Gates or Thomas Edison with top-secret inventions. It's immigration.

As for my participation today, I regret that I descended to the same level of behavior I find so abhorrent. My incredulousness at what had happened got the best of me. But - I will no longer try to refrain myself (as I have many many times) from calling a spade a spade. If that's 'spiraling' then hey - crucify me.

Or censor me.

Censor you - right! We'd need one active moderator first.

I agree wholeheartedly about VJ becoming more of a playground for the bored, but clearly that isn't going to change. The shiny red bow that was put on everything yesterday is what it is. Aussiewench wasn't even in that chat which I just find laughable. But hey, whatever works and makes the masses happy.

I'm just glad there's another place for me to go. Oh and the URL for FBI is still altered when I try to put it in my sig.

Laters!

I don't think ppl can be referred to as "the masses" just because they aren't mad at Ewok (or Aussie). Are we all supposed to leave VJ to prove we didn't like the action? Many people will have no idea what even went on. There was no shiny red bow yesterday, we are not a bunch of idiots who just believe whatever someone says. There was a "wait and see if I can resolve this". So now we are waiting. And we will see what really happens. I cannot just assume Aussie is the right one and Ewok was wrong, I don't know either of them personally. Maybe you know Aussie better which gives you better insight into her side.

I know Ewok is in charge here, but this site is a full functioning place with thousands and thousands of members. There are problems, yes. Any site with so many thousands of members and little moderation would have the same problems. That is an issue here, yes.

And while some areas may be considered playgrounds, which OT, General Polls, & etc would fit into that because they are meant for fun, can it really be true that every single forum relating to visas, consulates, petitions,etc is a playground? I think there are lots of people here to find info on their visajourney, more than ppl who are here cuz they are bored.

And yes I like coming here when I am bored. But I don't go into the immigration related forums to have my "fun", I go to OT or the polls, which is the place to be for bored people and people who want to have fun or just chill.

I have not gone much into many immigration related forums lately, since I am just waiting to lift conditions now. But I find it hard to believe that every one of them is a "playground" now.

I ditto what Lisa said above about why the chat happened when it did.