Regarding the Aussiewench Topic

[Marilyn. 340]

ewok did say that when the other site was first started he noticed something were copied directly from this site like the FAQ he did say that has changed now though after he sent them an email about it.... a few months back

[Jasman0717 9]

I think we should all actually keep this thread on track. Although it is understood that many here are appreciative of Steve's good work with starting this site, it should be remembered that this isn't the actual point of this thread.

This thread was started to discuss Aussie, not as a "Congratulate Steve" thread.

I guess I am guilty of that but I rarely see Steve post and never really did get a chance to thank him. Besides, how many threads ever stay on subject?

There has been a lot of side choosing and name calling with this issue so hope it will now be done with. I am not much of one to get involve in politics and the like and can never understand all the finger pointing and name calling, flame wars serve no purpose!

How can it be done with? So that's it? Thanks, Lorelle, for basically getting me through my visa journey, you'll be missed, sayonara, such a shame, etc.?

We are of course all entitled to our opinions on the matter, but that kind of reaction really disappoints me. It's such a slap in the face to Lorelle.

My point was that I hope all this name call and flaming is over and the parties involved and work the issues to their satisfaction.

[Captain Ewok 1,888]

I think between the 20-30 people in the chat just a short while ago we straightened things out . In the end it all boils down to both communication issues as well as just some principles. Originally there was content copied that was probably done without mal-intent. Either way it was upsetting to the degree it was done. At the time we did not know who owned the site and thought it could be anyone trying to steal things.

Since then it seems that the content is now changed which is great. I never had a beef with the site just the way things were copied at the time. Anyhow, concerning Aussie she is not suspended to post so she can of course post here in the thread if she wishes. Also I should mention that one reason I was upset is that when I asked if she affiliated at all with the other site she denied it making me suspicious. In any case from then on there was poor communication and I think an over reaction today because all the information was not available. While I can not repeat the hour or two's worth of chat in the chat room I can say that many people there were able to ask q's and in the end I feel as though we are all on the same page.

Thank you all again and sorry for the whole mess!

[chri'stina 190]

I think we should all actually keep this thread on track. Although it is understood that many here are appreciative of Steve's good work with starting this site, it should be remembered that this isn't the actual point of this thread.

This thread was started to discuss Aussie, not as a "Congratulate Steve" thread.

I guess I am guilty of that but I rarely see Steve post and never really did get a chance to thank him. Besides, how many threads ever stay on subject?

There has been a lot of side choosing and name calling with this issue so hope it will now be done with. I am not much of one to get involve in politics and the like and can never understand all the finger pointing and name calling, flame wars serve no purpose!

How can it be done with? So that's it? Thanks, Lorelle, for basically getting me through my visa journey, you'll be missed, sayonara, such a shame, etc.?

We are of course all entitled to our opinions on the matter, but that kind of reaction really disappoints me. It's such a slap in the face to Lorelle.

I personally was not helped by Lorelle in our K1 part of the visa journey(or on any immigration related topic), because I was done with it(the visa part) by the time she joined VJ. So for me, I can't choose sides based on whether she helped me or not. I know she helped a lot of people. I can't relate on that issue though. I think those who were personally helped may have more vested interest in this situation than people who were not. I could be wrong, don't know...

I was in chat with Ewok and others, and for now I am just gonna see what happens and if Ewok and Aussie can resolve it.

Edited May 10, 2007 by stina&suj

[Jasman0717 9]

I think between the 20-30 people in the chat just a short while ago we straightened things out . In the end it all boils down to both communication issues as well as just some principles. Originally there was content copied that was probably done without mal-intent. Either way it was upsetting to the degree it was done. Since then it seems that the content is now changed which is great. I never had a beef with the site just the way things were copied at the time. Anyhow, concerning Aussie she is not suspended to post so she can of course post here in the thread if she wishes. Also I should mention that one reason I was upset is that when I asked if she affiliated at all with the other site she denied it making me suspicious. In any case from then on there was poor communication and I think an over reaction today because all the information was not available. While I can not repeat the hour or two's worth of chat in the chat room I can say that many people there were able to ask q's and in the end I feel as though we are all on the same page.

Thank you all again and sorry for the whole mess!

Congratulations I am glad you were able to work your issues out.

[tweety 1]

I think we should all actually keep this thread on track. Although it is understood that many here are appreciative of Steve's good work with starting this site, it should be remembered that this isn't the actual point of this thread.

This thread was started to discuss Aussie, not as a "Congratulate Steve" thread.

I guess I am guilty of that but I rarely see Steve post and never really did get a chance to thank him. Besides, how many threads ever stay on subject?

There has been a lot of side choosing and name calling with this issue so hope it will now be done with. I am not much of one to get involve in politics and the like and can never understand all the finger pointing and name calling, flame wars serve no purpose!

How can it be done with? So that's it? Thanks, Lorelle, for basically getting me through my visa journey, you'll be missed, sayonara, such a shame, etc.?

We are of course all entitled to our opinions on the matter, but that kind of reaction really disappoints me. It's such a slap in the face to Lorelle.

I personally was not helped by Lorelle in our K1 part of the visa journey(or on any immigration related topic), because I was done with it(the visa part) by the time she joined VJ. So for me, I can't choose sides based on whether she helped me or not. I know she helped a lot of people. I can't relate on that issue though. I think those who were personally helped may have more vested interest in this situation than people who were not. I could be wrong, don't know...

I was in chat with Ewok and others, and for now I am just gonna see what happens and if Ewok and Aussie can resolve it.

You just spoke my mind Stina!

[Captain Ewok 1,888]

Aussie please email me at admin at visajourney if you would like to chat (not sure how to contact you directly). I know Steve has even volunteered to chat with you on the phone since he is in your timezone and can explains things as well since he was in the chatroom and genuinely wants to make things happy for all .

[TracyTN 237]

Was wenchie not in this last chat?

I would have hopped in if I had known it was going on.

[Captain Ewok 1,888]

A bunch of us were there. Steve too. We all chatted and figured things out . She must not have seen the link. A few people I think tried to find her but were unsuccessful. We covered this issue, conspiracy stories, Roswell, the JFK shooting (heck I even told them who did it!) .

[ceriserose 1]

Aussiewench has been away from her computer for the last few hours. She had offline errands etc.

Capt Ewok you could probably PM her with the invitation to contact. Might be more direct that way, rather than chancing all the potential for missing seeing it here. Just a thought.

[Captain Ewok 1,888]

I will email her at her board email since that will get to her even if she does not sign on .

[ceriserose 1]

Sounds like a plan.

[MichelleandCraig 1]

I wish I had been home for the chat, but we were out too. I hope things get resolved. Gotta love that Aussie. M.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I was at the chat and appreciated the honest discussion that took place. I feel confident that Ewok and Lorelle will be able to work things out satisfactorily.

[rebeccajo 14]

I would like to believe this can be sorted out.

In my opinion, that remains to be seen.

When the atmosphere of this community returns to one of a place of exchange of information, rather than a place for entertainment and a playground for the bored - then some of the 'healing' can begin.

I do not understand why two, three, ten or ten thousand message boards cannot exist freely on the web, especially when they are about a SERVICE offered by the US government. This isn't Bill Gates or Thomas Edison with top-secret inventions. It's immigration.

As for my participation today, I regret that I descended to the same level of behavior I find so abhorrent. My incredulousness at what had happened got the best of me. But - I will no longer try to refrain myself (as I have many many times) from calling a spade a spade. If that's 'spiraling' then hey - crucify me.

Or censor me.