Regarding the Aussiewench Topic

[steve 27]

I can't get in either, but that's because of my stupid Java.

I will attempt to restate RJ's question:

She wanted to know why regular board members can come here and disrespect the people here and the board - flaming and harrassing - while Lorelle (a long standing and well respected member) tells another member about her board and is stopped.

Essentially - we feel Lorelle deserved better than she got, regardless of the situation.

That was not why this happened though. I think people got this impression which is why things got out of control.

[TracyTN 237]

Ok, then what happened to Lorelle getting her rights back so she could discuss it with you (either in chat or here)?

[tom&tata 2]

Hello Steve, good to see you here. When Ewok referred to an older member who would have known!

i thought it was age related, i was waiting for almaty

is this "THE STEVE" that founded vj?

yep .

No matter what is going on here today, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for having the insight of starting this web site. Your vision has made it possible to have the woman of my dreams here by my side. I can't imagine attempting what we have done in the past two years without this site. I am sure thousands of others will echo my feelings. Thank you Thank you Thank you

I just would like to second that ... or third that......

Steve, just a big huge thank you

[Marilyn. 340]

My honest thoughts??? I won't even PM them, I'll tell you here.

1. I like Lorelle and really appreciate all she did here.

2. Regardless, I think this is getting blown WAY our of proportion....

That's all!

my sentiments exactly....

things on the net can be misinterpreted all the time....

[TracyTN 237]

Well, I read the chat transcript. Nothing new was learned.

Ewok and steve weren't in the chat at the same time. Aussiewench's ID was not unlocked as promised so she wasn't able to join and defend herself or explain anything.

I think I've seen enough to make up my mind.

Edited May 10, 2007 by TracyTN

[eau_xplain 2]

I was at the chat when Steve was there. He had to leave the chat as he's at work and they needed him to get something done.

Ewok probably has not gotten home yet.

I hope that when Ewok and Steve are finally able to get back into chat they will restore Aussie's account so that she too can get into chat with them.

[Marilyn. 340]

I was at the chat when Steve was there. He had to leave the chat as he's at work and they needed him to get something done.

Ewok probably has not gotten home yet.

I hope that when Ewok and Steve are finally able to get back into chat they will restore Aussie's account so that she too can get into chat with them.

I am sure this will be the case... Ewok said he just temporarily closed her account ...

I think some people have made up their minds already and no matter what is said or done it isn't going to change their minds...

[meauxna 15]

I can't get in either, but that's because of my stupid Java.

I will attempt to restate RJ's question:

She wanted to know why regular board members can come here and disrespect the people here and the board - flaming and harrassing - while Lorelle (a long standing and well respected member) tells another member about her board and is stopped.

Essentially - we feel Lorelle deserved better than she got, regardless of the situation.

And further, why was her account disguised to appear as if she had privileges here that she did not? Specifically, no PM access, and a NEW and separate group created for her and her alone that reads 'Organizer' (which she once was) but which gives no Organizing power to (which she had previously had)?

That looks very much to me like CYA on the VJ side, and pulling the wool over the eyes of everyone else here. I don't like being lied at.

[TracyTN 237]

I think some people have made up their minds already and no matter what is said or done it isn't going to change their minds...

Yep. That goes for people on both sides.

But seriously - if it had been proven that Lorelle truly spammed VJ (as in hundreds of PMs or posts), then I would have to seriously question her about that. If you think that I'm not capable of being that level headed, then I guess you don't know me that well.

Edited May 10, 2007 by TracyTN

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

wow. sad situation. let hope that with some time and effort from the different parties that things will be patched up.

good luck to all.

Daniel

:energetic:

[Jenn! 918]

And further, why was her account disguised to appear as if she had privileges here that she did not? Specifically, no PM access, and a NEW and separate group created for her and her alone that reads 'Organizer' (which she once was) but which gives no Organizing power to (which she had previously had)?

That looks very much to me like CYA on the VJ side, and pulling the wool over the eyes of everyone else here. I don't like being lied at.

Yep, here I was thinking that she had extra features on her account beyond that of the regular organizer, since she was in a category all her own. Little did I know.

[Mags 112]

I think we should all actually keep this thread on track. Although it is understood that many here are appreciative of Steve's good work with starting this site, it should be remembered that this isn't the actual point of this thread.

This thread was started to discuss Aussie, not as a "Congratulate Steve" thread.

[Marilyn. 340]

I think some people have made up their minds already and no matter what is said or done it isn't going to change their minds...

Yep. That goes for people on both sides.

But seriously - if it had been proven that Lorelle truly spammed VJ (as in hundreds of PMs or posts), then I would have to seriously question her about that. If you think that I'm not capable of being that level headed, then I guess you don't know me that well.

I don't think it was all about spamming... I think there was a big miscommunication on both sides...

i never said you weren't level-headed...

I am trying not to take sides here...

[TracyTN 237]

I think some people have made up their minds already and no matter what is said or done it isn't going to change their minds...

Yep. That goes for people on both sides.

But seriously - if it had been proven that Lorelle truly spammed VJ (as in hundreds of PMs or posts), then I would have to seriously question her about that. If you think that I'm not capable of being that level headed, then I guess you don't know me that well.

I don't think it was all about spamming... I think there was a big miscommunication on both sides...

i never said you weren't level-headed...

I am trying not to take sides here...

You're right, it wasn't all about spamming. Frankly I think the other part it was about is a load of waffle. Ewok was asked by email to point out which parts were lifted from VJ and never responded back. Which means either he didn't get the email, he didn't have the proof of what he was accusing her of, or he'd just rather ban her and be done with it.

So then it was agreed to reinstate Aussiewench's account and see if the two sides could come to some agreement on chat. In the meantime, Steve miraculously shows up and knows about this whole thing. Steve and Ewok can't happen to both make it to the chat. If Ewok could not be there for the chat he proposed, why not postpone it until he could be there too (and once he had reinstated Aussie's account)?

I'm starting to feel a sense of the Clark Kent/Superman disease going on here. You never see the two of them together at the same time. Kind of insults the intelligence just a bit.

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

Well, I read the chat transcript. Nothing new was learned.

Ewok and steve weren't in the chat at the same time. Aussiewench's ID was not unlocked as promised so she wasn't able to join and defend herself or explain anything.

I think I've seen enough to make up my mind.

I was still on the way home. I did ask you to be patient. Now that I am home I will unlock the account. I know you are in a rush but I am only human. Please understand.