Regarding the Aussiewench Topic

[metta 0]

I have no dog in this fight and I said what I said with nary an intention to offend anyone. I expressed the thought that came to my mind following this thread. But then, being offended is a state of mind of the offendee, not the offender and I have no control over whether you are offended or not. Your state of mind IS your state of mind not mine. Goes without saying that someone who is determined to be offended will be offended regardless of how far the other party goes to prevent it.

So I stand by my POV and you're very welcome to be offended.

I was very interested that you bought up the point of VJ being a free site. And as a dog with no fight you seem to bite somewhat.

And VJ being free has nothing to do with this conversation....

You're right!

Its Has everything to do with Biology

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n order to understand some of the deepest roots of our own behavior, scientists have no other option but observing the behavior of our closest relatives: the chimpanzees.

n order to understand some of the deepest roots of our own behavior, scientists have no other option but observing the behavior of our closest relatives: the chimpanzees.

In a study published in International Journal of Primatology, Dr Nicholas Newton-Fisher, lecturer in Biological Anthropology at the University of Kent, revealed for the first time that female wild chimpanzees will

counteract the male aggressiveness through politics, forming coalitions.

Newton-Fisher studied two years a group of eight adult males and 21 adult females of the East African chimpanzees in Budongo Forest, Uganda.

Females were often severely castigated by aggressive males but after few months of observations, the researcher saw females retaliating in direct response to this aggression.

In their counteracting actions, the females formed coalitions of two to six and retaliated with vocalizations, threatening gestures, and direct pursuit till physical attack, and on several occasions, were seen to solicit the support they then received.

Despite more than 40 years of detailed behavioral studies made in chimps groups from a diverse array of populations across Africa, this is the first to signal this behavior, even if this conduct has been detected in captive chimp groups.

"Female wild chimpanzees form coalitions as a strategy to counter male aggression. This strategy may reduce the incidence, severity or effectiveness of male aggression. Why they do this is still unclear but the levels and forms of cooperative retaliation that I observed among the chimpanzees in Budongo Forest may be because these females tend to be more gregarious than in other populations of East African chimpanzees, as other work studying the same population has suggested." said Newton-Fisher.

"Also, the absence of similar reports from wild populations suggests that females may be able to form coalitions only under appropriate conditions – such as ecology, demography or local tradition. If groups of females are able to spend time together because of the way food is distributed in the habitat, then they are ‘on-hand’ to provide support and form coalitions. Whether they do this simply because they are present when another female is threatened by a male, or because they have previously formed a supportive relationship, are questions for future research."

[rooster 1]

I see nothing's changed around here!

Lucky Strike here's ur invite...... www.removed.com

Good to see ya again sister Sarah BUT..............

I want MY darn invite too Sukie!!!!!

[sukie175 0]

Mich' )))))H((((( yeh I did thanks on 'Planet X'

Been very sick, still on 16 pills a day and doped to the eyeballs, seen the Endo in 2 weeks - I will pm you all my details & Welshie too & a post soon

Thanks for caring, it means alot when something horrible happens to you

I'm outta here, you know where to find me!!

P.S. Love the Man Utd stuff - GOOOOOO 's

[~Jackie~ 30]

This topic is going on longer than a MENA red-flag wavin party.

J

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

Hey guys please lets stop the ebickering as it is not helpful and not a part of what this site is for. Also at some point I think we should move off topic issues from this topic. There is not really anything new to add to this at this point. I will keep you updated if so. I have not heard anything new myself. Thanks for understanding .

Update 5/18: AW and I did coorespond via email. See here:

Ok, I have indeed now received an email from AW (4:30EST was sent and now recv'd). I will certainly respond to her points and let you know her thoughts that she expressed in the email. I hope that you will respect the situation and that it is between myself and her.

Firstly let me say that I apologize to AW and anyone else for my initial reactions to this and in anyway if I dispairaged her character. I do try hard and my intentions are true... no one is perfect and I am trying to do my best. AW is a good person and truthfully someone I always thought of as a friend. AW respectfully declined the offer to chat, in either visajourney or personally by phone, now and in the future. That is her decision and I will respect it.

AW also did agree that this matter does need to come to an end. It has gotten out of perspective and is not helpful to the many members around this and other sites and distracts from the goal of this and many sites on the internet -- to share experiences and make the immigration process less stressfull while promoting education on the topic. In the end I appreciate her comments and agree with her on what she said.

To AW again. I apologize if I reacted quick at the hip initially and the resulting snowball effect was truly not what I planned. I regret that the things that happened caused strain to both you and me personally. To everyone here, I hope this can show you that AW and I would like to put this behind us. I hope that you can respect that decision that we both have made (to move on and focus on what really matters -- the other members and community at large).

I also just want to thank everyone for what you have done for the immigration community as a whole . We are at a better place today than years ago because of everyones contributions and the many communities out there.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...st&p=920364