Relatives to Fiancee

[stringpuller 74]

Hello Members, 

Quick question. I will be marry a Vietnamese girl and we are going through the process either through K1 or a spousal visa( undecided  which) She has a relative that works in a Vietnamese consular or State department in the USA. Can this help verify a legitimate relationship through correspondence? Include this information in the petition? With all the scary denials because of fraud i was wondering if this could be of help? 

Thanks for any input. 

 

 

[Roel 7,192]

Pretty sure that person would get in troubles if someone finds out he's/she's helping a relative with visa process... nepotism much.

 

I don't see how you can include that in petition or how that would help. 

[stringpuller 74]

Thanks for reply and i do not know.

Im not referring to "insider handshakes" process is honored and what i mean is that typically some people are more believable then others so as to possibly curb the idea that the relationship is "bonefide" 

Nothing more then that. 

[mushroomspore 3,044]

Yeah the immigration petitions have to do with the couple and their romantic relationship/marriage. Relatives and family (whether they work as government officials or not) have nothing to do with it. And as Roel said above, her relative would most definitely get into trouble if it looks like he/she is helping you guys with your visa process.

 

EDIT: All the forms and their instruction packets explain what the US government wants from applicants/beneficiaries to prove that the relationship is bonafide. What more do you need???

Edited July 3, 2018 by mushroomspore

[stringpuller 74]

I wasn't sure. I read in another post someone saying to list relatives of beneficiary that are state side. 

I wouldnt want to get anyone in trouble im talking about verifying truth. 

Thats really it. 

[mushroomspore 3,044]

13 minutes ago, stringpuller said:

I wasn't sure. I read in another post someone saying to list relatives of beneficiary that are state side. 

I wouldnt want to get anyone in trouble im talking about verifying truth. 

Thats really it. 

Really? Which form was this person referring to? I haven't heard of that being required in any of the paperwork.

[stringpuller 74]

13 minutes ago, mushroomspore said:

Really? Which form was this person referring to? I haven't heard of that being required in any of the paperwork.

Not sure it was a form. I read it in an older thread. I understand your meaning though. The fraud may be to get relatives visas im sure. 

But my mind doesn't go that route because of my truthful nature. I. Referring to testifying to fact.

I mean in cases that need it we go to congressman. For one reason and thats their position and they are supposed to be believed in. 

 

I read alot about verifying a true relationship. 

[arken 4,197]

12 minutes ago, stringpuller said:

Not sure it was a form. I read it in an older thread. I understand your meaning though. The fraud may be to get relatives visas im sure. 

But my mind doesn't go that route because of my truthful nature. I. Referring to testifying to fact.

I mean in cases that need it we go to congressman. For one reason and thats their position and they are supposed to be believed in. 

 

I read alot about verifying a true relationship. 

Wow, rather than trying to assemble good evidences of bonafide relationship, you are already thinking of using affidavit from someone working in the embassy or in case you need to go to congressman!!!! Are you yourself doubting your relationship??

 

Your best bet would be planning on accumulating and/or adding new evidences as you two keep going. 

[mushroomspore 3,044]

18 minutes ago, stringpuller said:

Not sure it was a form. I read it in an older thread. I understand your meaning though. The fraud may be to get relatives visas im sure. 

But my mind doesn't go that route because of my truthful nature. I. Referring to testifying to fact.

I mean in cases that need it we go to congressman. For one reason and thats their position and they are supposed to be believed in. 

 

I read alot about verifying a true relationship. 

No worries. It may have been a section in older editions of the forms but listing relatives is definitely not part of the information they require from us at this point in time. Best bet is to follow the USCIS instruction packets with each form. Information from any other source should be taken with a grain of salt (especially if it is an old source).

Edited July 3, 2018 by mushroomspore

[stringpuller 74]

Just now, arken said:

Wow, rather than trying to assemble good evidences of bonafide relationship, you are already thinking of using affidavit from someone working in the embassy or in case you need to go to congressman!!!! Are you yourself doubting your relationship??

 

Your best bet would be planning on accumulating and/or adding new evidences as you two keep going. 

No not doubting anything at all.  Looking forward to our happy life together. My concern is about the process and the denials people are receiving and the people evaluating.  No worries was just a question.  

[stringpuller 74]

2 minutes ago, mushroomspore said:

No worries. It may have been a section in older editions of the forms but listing relatives is definitely not part of the information they require from us at this point in time. Best bet is to follow the USCIS instruction packets with each form. Information from any other source should be taken with a grain of salt (especially if it is an old source).

Gotcha. Well with it being this country with high fraud we are contemplating marrying in her country. 2 lawyers actually said that's a viable option. I will be interviewing other professionals on the matter and will make an i formed decision.  

[cyclone27 710]

If you have a real genuine relationship you have nothing to worry about.

[stringpuller 74]

7 minutes ago, cyclone27 said:

If you have a real genuine relationship you have nothing to worry about.

Yes thank you that is true obviously. 

 

[geowrian 22,337]

Affidavits carry very little to no weight. If you had no other evidence, and the affidavit is form somebody who is very familiar with the evolution of your particular relationship (and can describe it effectively), then that would be better than nothing.

If you have other evidence, then time would be much better spent focusing on that versus trying to get people to sign documents with little value.

[cdneh 3,112]

19 hours ago, stringpuller said:

Thanks for reply and i do not know.

Im not referring to "insider handshakes" process is honored and what i mean is that typically some people are more believable then others so as to possibly curb the idea that the relationship is "bonefide" 

Nothing more then that. 

There isn't any way around the process. No amount of insider assistance will do any good,  you need to prove the relationship is bonafide on your own

 

18 hours ago, stringpuller said:

Not sure it was a form. I read it in an older thread. I understand your meaning though. The fraud may be to get relatives visas im sure. 

But my mind doesn't go that route because of my truthful nature. I. Referring to testifying to fact.

I mean in cases that need it we go to congressman. For one reason and thats their position and they are supposed to be believed in. 

 

I read alot about verifying a true relationship. 

.You don't need a congressman. You need to follow the instructions from USCIS.  If you haven't got enough evidence to speak to a bonafide relationship, padding it out with affidavits and the like, and using relatives who are in what you perceive as positions of power will do you no good at all.

 

And I think you know that.

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