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I am a LPR and I have checked us citizen on i9 and on FAFSA . I just recently realized how big of a mistake I have made and have decided to not apply for naturalization. I want to travel to my home country to visit my mother but I am worried about my school federal loan that says I'm a citizen being discovered. I have talked to 2 immigration lawyers , the first told me it would be a risk to travell abroad as we don't know what the customs officer see on their database.The second one told me not to worry so I am not sure what to do.  Has anyone been in or knows someone in a similar situation? I can't imagine never visiting home and seeing my family however I can't risk being removed, I have a usc child and if I was to be removed his father would not let him go with him or let him visit.How does uscis and border officers finds out about false claims?I appreciate your responses in advance.

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A material false claim to US citizenship is grounds for removal of any status, deportation, and an unwaivable permanent bar. If you ever try to naturalize, they will probably notice it. They will

Roel
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You're worrying about traveling but claiming to be US citizen Can and might lead to your deportation. It's absolutely the worst thing you can do when it comes to immigration.    One way or a

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All you can do is admit it and explain that you were under the impression that you acquired US citizenship through your father when he brought you here but you have since discovered that this is not t

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You're worrying about traveling but claiming to be US citizen Can and might lead to your deportation. It's absolutely the worst thing you can do when it comes to immigration. 

 

One way or another this will probably come up eventually. You will have to renew your green card at some point, no? 

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A material false claim to US citizenship is grounds for removal of any status, deportation, and an unwaivable permanent bar.

If you ever try to naturalize, they will probably notice it. They will also ask about it on the N-400.

 

The best thing you can do, IMO, is try to fix your error by retracting the false claim to show that it was not intentional and hope for the best (assuming you make a timely retracting):

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume8-PartK-Chapter2.html#S-F

 

The alternative is to just not touch it and hope they never notice. Never lie about it.

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ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

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9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

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7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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13 minutes ago, Roel said:

You're worrying about traveling but claiming to be US citizen Can and might lead to your deportation. It's absolutely the worst thing you can do when it comes to immigration. 

 

One way or another this will probably come up eventually. You will have to renew your green card at some point, no? 

I have renewed it with no issues 

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3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

A material false claim to US citizenship is grounds for removal of any status, deportation, and an unwaivable permanent bar.

If you ever try to naturalize, they will probably notice it. They will also ask about it on the N-400.

 

The best thing you can do, IMO, is try to fix your error by retracting the false claim to show that it was not intentional and hope for the best (assuming you make a timely retracting):

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume8-PartK-Chapter2.html#S-F

 

The alternative is to just not touch it and hope they never notice. Never lie about it.

I don't plan on lying as I will never apply for n400 ,I am okay with renewing my green card every 10 years but I am worried about travelling. I should have added in my post that my father is a naturalized usc and both he and I thought I automatically derive it after he brought me here but he did not have legal custody of me which is one of the requirements and so I can not apply for the n600 as I had thought o could.

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9 minutes ago, Serenitty said:

I don't plan on lying as I will never apply for n400 ,I am okay with renewing my green card every 10 years but I am worried about travelling. I should have added in my post that my father is a naturalized usc and both he and I thought I automatically derive it after he brought me here but he did not have legal custody of me which is one of the requirements and so I can not apply for the n600 as I had thought o could.

When you renew your GC, you will be asked if you have made false claims. Update the paperwork you know you filed incorrectly and answer the questions honestly. 

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15 minutes ago, Serenitty said:

I don't plan on lying as I will never apply for n400 ,I am okay with renewing my green card every 10 years

Haven't you already lied to gain benefits of a US citizen?   I agree with @geowrian.  I would try to fix this thing before it snowballs..

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Crazy Cat Grand Master

Crazy Cat   42,218

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28 minutes ago, Serenitty said:

I have renewed it with no issues 

That does not guarantee that it won't be found at a later time......and the result will be the same.....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Ontarkie Grand Master

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46 minutes ago, Serenitty said:

I don't plan on lying as I will never apply for n400 ,I am okay with renewing my green card every 10 years but I am worried about travelling. I should have added in my post that my father is a naturalized usc and both he and I thought I automatically derive it after he brought me here but he did not have legal custody of me which is one of the requirements and so I can not apply for the n600 as I had thought o could.

How did your father bring you here if he didn't have custody? Did you move in with him when you moved to the US. 

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No sense on giving you a lecture, but even un-documented people who have lied on the work form to gain employment and later trying to adjust status have to disclose this. Misrepresenting yourself as a USC is a big time NO! Hope you can solve this. 

8/7/2017                    NOA-1

3/1/2018                    NOA-2

3/15/2018                  NVC case received

3/22/2018                  NVC case assigned

3/23/2018                  Consulate ready

4/11/2018                  Medical

4/17/2018                  Visa Approved

4/24/2018                  Visa on hand

5/23/2018                  Point of Entry ATL

5/24/2018                  Marriage license, officiant and certificate / applied for SS#

5/31/2018                  AOS/AP/EAD

6/7/2018                    email notification of NOA-1

6/11/2018                  NOA-1 hard copies for AOS/EAD/AP

6/27/2018                  Biometrics for AOS/EAD

7/7/2018                    ready to be scheduled for interview

7/11/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (email from USCIS)

8/22/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (same email again)

9/5/2018                     We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (this is getting boring!!!)

10/3/2018                  We are still reviewing your case and there are no updates at this time (this is insanity, 4th time while some got GC)

10/17/2018                After 136 days of wait in HELL, finally EAD in production

10/21/2018                Card was mailed to me, and yes it said so on a Sunday night, while Vj-ing

10/22/2018                Card was picked up by the USPS

10/24/2018                EAD in hand. F%^&& finally

12/28/2018                Interview has been scheduled. Waiting for notification with date by snail mail

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1 hour ago, GreatDane said:

When you renew your GC, you will be asked if you have made false claims. Update the paperwork you know you filed incorrectly and answer the questions honestly. 

You are asked when applying for naturalization not renewing green card

Crazy Cat Grand Master

Crazy Cat   42,218

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7 minutes ago, Serenitty said:

I did not require citizenship to work or get fafsa ,you can work and get fafsa as a lpr

Did you claim to be a US citizen?

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

 
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