Trump’s ‘Travel Ban’ Countries Account For Only 8% of World’s Muslims

[jg121783 3,915]

28 minutes ago, Rob and Cheryl said:

You don't know me, my training, my background or what I always do so please avoid the personal analysis and attacks. Thank you.

 

I have not made an argument for or against the ban, I have pointed out that the President on many occasions has expressed a specific desire for a ban on Muslims entering the country and that these are his executive orders. 

 

You have tried to argue that the current travel ban is a Muslim ban. I have simply pointed out it is not.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

36 minutes ago, Rob and Cheryl said:

You don't know me, my training, my background or what I always do so please avoid the personal analysis and attacks. Thank you.

 

I have not made an argument for or against the ban, I have pointed out that the President on many occasions has expressed a specific desire for a ban on Muslims entering the country and that these are his executive orders. 

 

Since your memory is so good, do you also remember that when this alleged "muslim ban" went into effect,  the Trump admin simply used the list of nations that was already in place under Obama?? 

[Rob and Cheryl 56]

26 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

You have tried to argue that the current travel ban is a Muslim ban. I have simply pointed out it is not.

I am pointing out that the Genesis of the Presidents policies is targeting Muslims, in his own words.  You have no idea what I am trying to do. 

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A lot of times a president or any other politician will say something and do something else. 

[Rob and Cheryl 56]

26 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

Since your memory is so good, do you also remember that when this alleged "muslim ban" went into effect,  the Trump admin simply used the list of nations that was already in place under Obama?? 

Alleged?  Can a law be a criminal? How about the restrictions on travel people coming from predominantly Muslim countries  including LPRs returning home with families and jobs which snarled  the border at several airports because it was signed with no guidance from the cabinet heads who were all not available over the weekend and that was struck down by several district courts and was so bad the Supreme Court refused to take up the appeal?  That Muslim Ban?

[Rob and Cheryl 56]

1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

A lot of times a president or any other politician will say something and do something else. 

It's not like he failed to fund a highway, the man is leveraging hate speech.

 

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I've never really cared whether or not it was a Muslim ban. I thought and still think it's bad policy.

 

It's brought out a lot of people online (not here though) saying things along the lines of "we don't need Yemenis here anyway", etc. My wife is Yemeni, it's interesting to know how many people think she shouldn't be here. Since she came on a student visa, she would have been barred if this had been in place at the time. I would not have been pleased.

 

As someone who doesn't play on team red or team blue, it's annoying that this is one of the issues that has made people categorize everyone. As if being against it means you're on team blue, or that not being on team blue means you favor the ban.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

5 minutes ago, Rob and Cheryl said:

Alleged?  Can a law be a criminal? How about the restrictions on travel people coming from predominantly Muslim countries  including LPRs returning home with families and jobs which snarled  the border at several airports because it was signed with no guidance from the cabinet heads who were all not available over the weekend and that was struck down by several district courts and was so bad the Supreme Court refused to take up the appeal?  That Muslim Ban?

My wifes family can not get a visa to come here and visit. Does he hate Catholics also 

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3 minutes ago, Rob and Cheryl said:

It's not like he failed to fund a highway, the man is leveraging hate speech.

 

The glory of free speech (I'm being sarcastic). 

[Rob and Cheryl 56]

1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

The glory of free speech (I'm being sarcastic). 

The gory of free speech , fixed

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Rob and Cheryl said:

Alleged?  Can a law be a criminal? How about the restrictions on travel people coming from predominantly Muslim countries  including LPRs returning home with families and jobs which snarled  the border at several airports because it was signed with no guidance from the cabinet heads who were all not available over the weekend and that was struck down by several district courts and was so bad the Supreme Court refused to take up the appeal?  That Muslim Ban?

Alleged doesn't mean anything about criminality.

 

The list of countries to limit was put in place under Obama or prior.  It's not like the Trump admin came up with it on their own.  So Trump didn't ban muslims.  He just enforced a law or rule that was already in place.

[jg121783 3,915]

2 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

Alleged doesn't mean anything about criminality.

 

The list of countries to limit was put in place under Obama or prior.  It's not like the Trump admin came up with it on their own.  So Trump didn't ban muslims.  He just enforced a law or rule that was already in place.

Much like the policy of separating illegal alien children from their parents. The policy was in place for the previous 3 administrations but all if a sudden when the media need a distraction from the IG report its all Trump's fault.

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21 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

Alleged doesn't mean anything about criminality.

 

The list of countries to limit was put in place under Obama or prior.  It's not like the Trump admin came up with it on their own.  So Trump didn't ban muslims.  He just enforced a law or rule that was already in place.

 

I have no dog in this fight, but while Obama's record on immigration was atrocious, people from Yemen could in fact come to the US when Obama was president. I know because my wife came to the US in 2015 before we were married, under a student visa.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

5 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

My wifes family can not get a visa to come here and visit. Does he hate Catholics also 

 

  Is there a ban on the PI now? If not that sounds like a false equivalence.

 

  

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21 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Is there a ban on the PI now? If not that sounds like a false equivalence.

 

  

Calling a travel ban that affects only 8% of muslims a muslim ban is about the same as calling restrictions on tourist visas that might affect a small group of catholics a catholic ban. I don't see any false equivalencies there. Both are ridiculous charicterizations of what they are attempting to describe.