K-1, K-3, or Cr-1?

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2 minutes ago, contrapuntal62 said:

Thank you for your input.

So exactly how was Bernice committing fraud? In other words, what was she hoping to get or what was she getting from all of these men, cash? marriage ?--. If he was ready to run over there, what did she intend to happen? A Cr-1, she gets married, moves to states, then leaves him? Or did she just want to live of a combo of monthly installments from these men?

I know there are repercussions if one does not marry within 90 days on the K-1 (the person goes back home), but on the CR-1 are there likewise repercussions to dissuade/prevent fraud?

This is common place to lure men in to "date them" and then swindle them for money due to some "family emergency" or just to help support her.

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The common one we see here is get married to a USC, get GC get divorced petition your SO and everybody gets in.

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26 minutes ago, Boiler said:

The common one we see here is get married to a USC, get GC get divorced petition your SO and everybody gets in.

ah--now I see. Thank you for the MO profile.

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45 minutes ago, contrapuntal62 said:

 

 In other words, what was she hoping to get or what was she getting from all of these men, cash? marriage ?--. If he was ready to run over there, what did she intend to happen? A Cr-1, she gets married, moves to states, then leaves him? Or did she just want to live off the combined donations from these men? What is the end goal?

 

Either/Or. Sometimes it is a combination of both. For some it is simply getting feet on US soil. For others it is getting a stream of income from generous donations.

 

Many in the US may not think $50 is not a lot of money to send. But if a woman can convince 10 different men a month to send it, that equals to $500. That is a great deal of money to survive on in some countries.

 

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10 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

Either/Or. Sometimes it is a combination of both. For some it is simply getting feet on US soil. For others it is getting a stream of income from generous donations.

 

Many in the US may not think $50 is not a lot of money to send. But if a woman can convince 10 different men a month to send it, that equals to $500. That is a great deal of money to survive on in some countries.

 

Actually it would be comfortable middle class life style.

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36 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

Either/Or. Sometimes it is a combination of both. For some it is simply getting feet on US soil. For others it is getting a stream of income from generous donations.

 

Many in the US may not think $50 is not a lot of money to send. But if a woman can convince 10 different men a month to send it, that equals to $500. That is a great deal of money to survive on in some countries.

 

This happens a lot @contrapuntal62 where one woman is skimming maybe $100 a month from different guys and overall they are making really good money off of those guys. It's sad really but this happens to guys we see on here quite a bit.

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

The common one we see here is get married to a USC, get GC get divorced petition your SO and everybody gets in.

  Not only does everyone get in but the original USC petitioner is on the hook the affidavit of support even if the sweet young thing gets her man here.   That is for 40 quarters of work credit and that could be life if miss sweet thing never works.  

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On 6/25/2018 at 10:36 PM, geowrian said:

If she can obtain a tourist visa (56.18% refusal rate last fiscal year from Ghana), then she can visit and you can marry and start the visa process fine that way, too.

Yes, and if she visits on a tourist visa and then we subsequently marry in USA, doesn't she have to fly right back home after, and then we start the petition?

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3 minutes ago, NigeriaorBust said:

but the original USC petitioner is on the hook the affidavit of support even if the sweet young thing gets her man here.   That is for 40 quarters of work credit and that could be life if miss sweet thing never works.  

Thank you for those details.

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8 minutes ago, contrapuntal62 said:

Yes, and if she visits on a tourist visa and then we subsequently marry in USA, doesn't she have to fly right back home after, and then we start the petition?

She would have to the leave the US before expiration of her I-94 .  That length of time would be determined by the CBP officer at the time of her entry into the US.  You could start the CR-1 process at any time after marriage.

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Question-  How does she feel about you moving there to live? 

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51 minutes ago, contrapuntal62 said:

Yes, and if she visits on a tourist visa and then we subsequently marry in USA, doesn't she have to fly right back home after, and then we start the petition?

I thought you said she had little money, how could she afford a US Holiday.

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2 minutes ago, missileman said:

Question-  How does she feel about you moving there to live? 

Great question. Actually, we have a very specific 5 year plan shared goal that will be a long term proposition, and that is here in a Western state. We have very specific goals here. As in PLan A, PLan B, PLan B1.a etc.

 

Living at all there would be very short term and only if needed in an extreme situation. But simply for exploring ideas--I try my best to keep an open mind. I pay attention to the road signs, and the open doors, so to speak. Or I try to do my best I suppose. Like most people.

 

But life does not, even when dreams unfold, always happen on our chosen timeline, or conform to our project plans. Adaptability is an underappreciated character asset IMHO. We both agree we are taking chances on a level we have never done before. We also agree we are completely worth the uphill climb. We both run. We understand endurance from that perspective, and it helps with a long term mindset. This is not a camping trip. This is a major expedition, and not for the faint of heart IMHO.

 

My Dad was married for over 50 years to the most beautifully amazing person, my Mother. Even though he "likes" if you will, and feels very positive about Mary, he does point out the expense. "How can you be willing to risk this investment in getting her over here?" he asks.

 

I replied "Knowing the life you lived over 50 years with Mom, how much would you have paid to meet her? what was the dollar value of meeting her?" He could not answer

 

I think that an unanswerable question for the romantic. Maybe not for the pragmatic. I know I could never answer such a question. How can one put a value on a person, an experience, half a lifetime together? A love?

 

Zi Gong asked, "Is there a single saying that we can put into action throughout our lives?" Confucius said, "Perhaps putting oneself in the other's place. What you don't wish for yourself, don't do to others." ----Analects

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, contrapuntal62 said:

Yes, and if she visits on a tourist visa and then we subsequently marry in USA, doesn't she have to fly right back home after, and then we start the petition?

Not right away....but anytime before her I-94 expires. This could be any period of time up to 6 months (technically 1 year but that's exceedingly rare), as dictated at POE.

Edit: The petition can be filed at any point after meeting (K-1) or getting married (CR-1).

Edited June 27, 2018 by geowrian

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41 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Not right away....but anytime before her I-94 expires. This could be any period of time up to 6 months (technically 1 year but that's exceedingly rare), as dictated at POE.

Edit: The petition can be filed at any point after meeting (K-1) or getting married (CR-1).

Not an obvious candidate for a B.