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2 hours ago, Unidentified said:

And in this case, you are clueless. 

It's not belief, it's facts. You should research it. 

I didn’t get this far in life by being clueless, believe me.

 

Just because you believe what you are saying doesn’t make it factual.  I don’t have to research it, I have done it.  And known others who have done it.  Just because you cannot control your urges doesn’t mean everyone cannot.

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17 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

So it... changes?  There is a choice in the matter?  Glad you finally see the light.  Took you longer than I expected.  But I still love you man.  You’re my favorite Dr. on here, by far!  :wub: :devil:

 

No. It's just not defined by who you are attracted to in one moment. Exactly as I said.

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13 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I didn’t get this far in life by being clueless, believe me.

 

Just because you believe what you are saying doesn’t make it factual.  I don’t have to research it, I have done it.  And known others who have done it.  Just because you cannot control your urges doesn’t mean everyone cannot.

Except in this case we are factual, and you are just going with your gut.

 

Sexual orientation means one thing. I sent the proper link pages ago. The definition there is quite self explanatory. There is no need for more.

 

Now onto cake.

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16 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I didn’t get this far in life by being clueless, believe me.

 

Just because you believe what you are saying doesn’t make it factual.  I don’t have to research it, I have done it.  And known others who have done it.  Just because you cannot control your urges doesn’t mean everyone cannot.

No I don't believe. I researched and presented you with facts. So yeah, you're still clueless on this subject.





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2 hours ago, bcking said:

Except in this case we are factual, and you are just going with your gut.

 

Sexual orientation means one thing. I sent the proper link pages ago. The definition there is quite self explanatory. There is no need for more.

 

 

Now onto cake.

Allow me to summarize for you...

sex·u·al o·ri·en·ta·tion
noun
  1. a person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.

 

And it can change, as a person wishes, or as they mature.

 

Happy birthday!  Hope you have an awesome one!


 

 
 
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11 hours ago, IDWAF said:

If I want to have sex with chickens in between having sex with men and women, I am free to make choice.

Actions Have Consequences:

 

BBC NEWS
Sudan man forced to 'marry' goat

A Sudanese man has been forced to take a goat as his "wife", after he was caught having sex with the animal.

The goat's owner, Mr Alifi, said he surprised the man with his goat and took him to a council of elders.

They ordered the man, Mr Tombe, to pay a dowry of 15,000 Sudanese dinars ($50) to Mr Alifi.

"We have given him the goat, and as far as we know they are still together," Mr Alifi said.

Mr Alifi, Hai Malakal in Upper Nile State, told the Juba Post newspaper that he heard a loud noise around midnight on 13 February and immediately rushed outside to find Mr Tombe with his goat.

"When I asked him: 'What are you doing there?', he fell off the back of the goat, so I captured and tied him up".

Mr Alifi then called elders to decide how to deal with the case.

"They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife," Mr Alifi told the newspaper.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/africa/4748292.stm

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As long as you don't want to marry a Common Chimp (as though there's anything Common)...

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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This thread got completely off the rails.  In summary, hatred is bad, and intolerance is bad.

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So apparently the owners didn't stop when they refused to serve Sarah Sanders but they actually followed her into the next restaurant to harass her more.

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5885663/Mike-Huckabee-says-liberal-Red-Hen-owners-harassed-daughter-more.html

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5 hours ago, IDWAF said:

Allow me to summarize for you...

sex·u·al o·ri·en·ta·tion
noun
  1. a person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.

 

And it can change, as a person wishes, or as they mature.

 

Happy birthday!  Hope you have an awesome one!


 

 
 

I agree . It can be fluid.  I have seen it happen.

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5 hours ago, IDWAF said:

Allow me to summarize for you...

sex·u·al o·ri·en·ta·tion
noun
  1. a person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.

 

And it can change, as a person wishes, or as they mature.

 

Happy birthday!  Hope you have an awesome one!


 

 
 

Unfortunately whatever lay person source you've pulled that definition from has simplified it a bit, which is maybe the source of your confusion. It's okay. A lot of terminology gets simplified for the lay audience, which can lead to misunderstandings.

 

From the very first link is shared with you:

 

"Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person's sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors and membership in a community of others who share those attractions."

 

it's not about who you happen to be attracted to today. It's about enduring feelings, feelings which you can't control completely and therefore can't choose. If, as you say, you truly have the "freedom" to choose to be attracted to both men and women, and that's over a significant period of your life, then as Yuna suggested perhaps you don't fall on the spectrum where you think. Most people can't "make" themselves attracted to the sex they aren't routinely attracted to. 

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17 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So apparently the owners didn't stop when they refused to serve Sarah Sanders but they actually followed her into the next restaurant to harass her more.

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5885663/Mike-Huckabee-says-liberal-Red-Hen-owners-harassed-daughter-more.html

Sad. 

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1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I agree . It can be fluid.  I have seen it happen.

That would be bisexual.

 

It's not day to day. It's an enduring pattern. If you are fluid and go back and forth, you're bi.

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