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Hi! New here and patiently waiting on our interview notification. I am eager to hear from those who have completed successfully their spousal consulate interview, especially those in the Dominican Republic. My husband and I have just celebrated our first year wedding anniversary, June 3rd. Since we met in September of 2016 I have traveled to the island almost every other month and stayed on average 30 days at a time. I do have photos from my first visit, the visit where we met while both were on vacation but I do not have my travel documents. 

Year One: Feb '17, June 17, Aug 17, Oct 17 and Dec 17-Jan 18

Year Two: Feb '18, Apr 18-June 18 

My question is how much proof of relationship do I need to bring? I have photos from each visit with my husbands family and friends in addition to photos with my friends who traveled with me to the island. Our wedding was there on the island and we have photos, resort contract and communication. I did not print our conversations from the beginning and I am worried I will not be able to download them via IMO. We speak daily, throughout the day and I wonder how much of our conversation via WhatsApp do I need to print? What am I missing?????

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Country-specific thread is moved from the K-3 Process forum to the Caribbean regional forum.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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You will be fine,send whatever you can find,I do think you have a lot of proof. Just package it nicely and you will be fine.

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8 hours ago, Tk Robinson said:

You will be fine,send whatever you can find,I do think you have a lot of proof. Just package it nicely and you will be fine.

Thank you! I am reading so many stories about request for additional proof, that it made me nervous. 

9 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Country-specific thread is moved from the K-3 Process forum to the Caribbean regional forum.

I had no idea that forum existed. Thank you and I will check this out! 

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You’re welcome...I didn’t have a lot but it was good evidence so it’s not the amount but the proof that your relationship is real...good luck on your journey. There is a lot of group chats and forums on here so keep us posted. Am now doing my I-751..am a June filer and we have a group chat abt that as well..just search for whatever stage you are at and the wonderful folks on here will surely help you

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On 6/24/2018 at 8:11 AM, Tk Robinson said:

You’re welcome...I didn’t have a lot but it was good evidence so it’s not the amount but the proof that your relationship is real...good luck on your journey. There is a lot of group chats and forums on here so keep us posted. Am now doing my I-751..am a June filer and we have a group chat abt that as well..just search for whatever stage you are at and the wonderful folks on here will surely help you

Thank you!!!! Much appreciated🤗

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On 6/22/2018 at 9:42 PM, Shawna y Jairo said:

Hi! New here and patiently waiting on our interview notification. I am eager to hear from those who have completed successfully their spousal consulate interview, especially those in the Dominican Republic. My husband and I have just celebrated our first year wedding anniversary, June 3rd. Since we met in September of 2016 I have traveled to the island almost every other month and stayed on average 30 days at a time. I do have photos from my first visit, the visit where we met while both were on vacation but I do not have my travel documents. 

Year One: Feb '17, June 17, Aug 17, Oct 17 and Dec 17-Jan 18

Year Two: Feb '18, Apr 18-June 18 

My question is how much proof of relationship do I need to bring? I have photos from each visit with my husbands family and friends in addition to photos with my friends who traveled with me to the island. Our wedding was there on the island and we have photos, resort contract and communication. I did not print our conversations from the beginning and I am worried I will not be able to download them via IMO. We speak daily, throughout the day and I wonder how much of our conversation via WhatsApp do I need to print? What am I missing?????

In my opinion, the evidence you posted is severely lacking.  You are facing a difficult consulate.  It takes more than proof that you visited his country and "photos from each visit with my husbands family and friends in addition to photos with my friends who traveled with me to the island.". That makes it sound like vacation pictures.   The CO will want to see quality evidence of a REAL MARRIAGE such as financial mingling (if you can), insurance documents, healthcare documents, and documents generated by spouses.  Remember, QUALITY is the key, not quantity.

 

And another thing:  Don't pay any attention to those who say "You are fine".......believe me, you need stronger evidence.....

 

EDIT:  The fact fact that you have a lot of actual face-to-face time is great......I would add to that with other types of evidence.

 

Good Luck.

Edited by missileman

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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22 hours ago, missileman said:

In my opinion, the evidence you posted is severely lacking.  You are facing a difficult consulate.  It takes more than proof that you visited his country and "photos from each visit with my husbands family and friends in addition to photos with my friends who traveled with me to the island.". That makes it sound like vacation pictures.   The CO will want to see quality evidence of a REAL MARRIAGE such as financial mingling (if you can), insurance documents, healthcare documents, and documents generated by spouses.  Remember, QUALITY is the key, not quantity.

 

And another thing:  Don't pay any attention to those who say "You are fine".......believe me, you need stronger evidence.....

 

EDIT:  The fact fact that you have a lot of actual face-to-face time is great......I would add to that with other types of evidence.

 

Good Luck.

Well I went through the Jamaican consulate n they didn’t take much of my paperwork’s but they took my pics and my husband documents so not everyone gets a hard time through immigrations,she has a lot of solid proof so if I was her I wouldn’t be worried..everyone case is unique,some ppl only put the stuff they asked for n nothing extra n they are fine.

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1 minute ago, Tk Robinson said:

Well I went through the Jamaican consulate n they didn’t take much of my paperwork’s but they took my pics and my husband documents so not everyone gets a hard time through immigrations,she has a lot of solid proof so if I was her I wouldn’t be worried..everyone case is unique,some ppl only put the stuff they asked for n nothing extra n they are fine.

Every case is different, and COs look at the total picture.  It is better to be prepared with as many varied pieces of quality evidence as possible....

Good Luck.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Just now, missileman said:

Every case is different, and COs look at the total picture.  It is better to be prepared with as many varied pieces of quality evidence as possible....

Good Luck.

And how do you suggest she get health insurance for him and all the other stuff that you suggested she send in to immigration...am sure she said he isn’t in the USA yet

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On 6/22/2018 at 9:42 PM, Shawna y Jairo said:

Hi! New here and patiently waiting on our interview notification. I am eager to hear from those who have completed successfully their spousal consulate interview, especially those in the Dominican Republic. My husband and I have just celebrated our first year wedding anniversary, June 3rd. Since we met in September of 2016 I have traveled to the island almost every other month and stayed on average 30 days at a time. I do have photos from my first visit, the visit where we met while both were on vacation but I do not have my travel documents. 

Year One: Feb '17, June 17, Aug 17, Oct 17 and Dec 17-Jan 18

Year Two: Feb '18, Apr 18-June 18 

My question is how much proof of relationship do I need to bring? I have photos from each visit with my husbands family and friends in addition to photos with my friends who traveled with me to the island. Our wedding was there on the island and we have photos, resort contract and communication. I did not print our conversations from the beginning and I am worried I will not be able to download them via IMO. We speak daily, throughout the day and I wonder how much of our conversation via WhatsApp do I need to print? What am I missing?????

Print off the whatsapp messages as well,and try to get your travel itinerary from the airline or whoever you booked through. And am not from Dominica so hopefully someone from there will help ya.

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30 minutes ago, Tk Robinson said:

And how do you suggest she get health insurance for him and all the other stuff that you suggested she send in to immigration...am sure she said he isn’t in the USA yet

Can't get insurance if he is not in the US, but other documents can be generated such as a will, insurance beneficiary documents, added user to credit card maybe.....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 4:43 PM, missileman said:

In my opinion, the evidence you posted is severely lacking.  You are facing a difficult consulate.  It takes more than proof that you visited his country and "photos from each visit with my husbands family and friends in addition to photos with my friends who traveled with me to the island.". That makes it sound like vacation pictures.   The CO will want to see quality evidence of a REAL MARRIAGE such as financial mingling (if you can), insurance documents, healthcare documents, and documents generated by spouses.  Remember, QUALITY is the key, not quantity.

 

And another thing:  Don't pay any attention to those who say "You are fine".......believe me, you need stronger evidence.....

 

EDIT:  The fact fact that you have a lot of actual face-to-face time is great......I would add to that with other types of evidence.

 

Good Luck.

Thank you @missileman I welcome the honest feedback, exactly why I posed the question. You made me go into deep thought about what additional information I can print for our interview binder. I do not want to rely on spending 6 plus months out of 12 months as our main source of proof. I added my husband to my life insurance policy, can print that. I have been sending substantial financial support for the home we share on the island so I can print those monthly receipts. In regards to health care and banking documents, he would need to live here to be added to my accounts.

 

On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 4:43 PM, missileman said:

In my opinion, the evidence you posted is severely lacking.  You are facing a difficult consulate.  It takes more than proof that you visited his country and "photos from each visit with my husbands family and friends in addition to photos with my friends who traveled with me to the island.". That makes it sound like vacation pictures.   The CO will want to see quality evidence of a REAL MARRIAGE such as financial mingling (if you can), insurance documents, healthcare documents, and documents generated by spouses.  Remember, QUALITY is the key, not quantity.

 

And another thing:  Don't pay any attention to those who say "You are fine".......believe me, you need stronger evidence.....

 

EDIT:  The fact fact that you have a lot of actual face-to-face time is great......I would add to that with other types of evidence.

 

Good Luck.

 

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7 hours ago, Tk Robinson said:

Well I went through the Jamaican consulate n they didn’t take much of my paperwork’s but they took my pics and my husband documents so not everyone gets a hard time through immigrations,she has a lot of solid proof so if I was her I wouldn’t be worried..everyone case is unique,some ppl only put the stuff they asked for n nothing extra n they are fine.

Thank you, I thought the pics would provide great proof in addition to the substantial flights I had taken and time spent. The DR has a tough reputation so I am going to go back and think through of other proof I have that we are a legitimate proof of relationship. A friend completed her interview and they got into very personal intimate questions with she and her husband. How did your interview go at the embassy?

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6 hours ago, Shawna y Jairo said:

Thank you, I thought the pics would provide great proof in addition to the substantial flights I had taken and time spent. The DR has a tough reputation so I am going to go back and think through of other proof I have that we are a legitimate proof of relationship. A friend completed her interview and they got into very personal intimate questions with she and her husband. How did your interview go at the embassy?

They basically asked how we met,wanted to see the rings,if I met his parents...it was an awesome interview n mind you I was pretty nervous. I really have no clue abt DR so I wish you the best.

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