How to voluntarily return green card?

[Sa Pa 0]

5 minutes ago, Roel said:

If you're already scared of your husband, for whatever reason. Why do you bother asking us if you could return to him and what would guarantee you keeping your green card. .. 

 

You were so scared of your husband that you went to your parents, but now you're considering it? 

 

Why is this threat still open.

My husband is convincing me to go to him. He is saying that i write it by law that I will not divorce and harm you in any way. So by law it can be done?? 

[Jojo92122 1,924]

1 hour ago, Sa Pa said:

Please suggest...

 

If I go to my husband, he can give safety by law that he will not give me divorce and will not send me back when 2 years green card expires?? And will not harm me.

Any documental proof can be done?? 

No.  There is no way to have a valid agreement that forbids a divorce.  No court would force him to stay married and can not have a divorce if he changes his mind. 

He can't send you back; that's not in his powers.  The US Government can revoke your green card.

 

Paperwork is not going to protect you from getting harm.

8 minutes ago, Sa Pa said:

My husband is convincing me to go to him. He is saying that i write it by law that I will not divorce and harm you in any way. So by law it can be done?? 

NO.

 

You are scare of him, yet you will stay with him go to be with him for a green card.  How does this make you look now?

Edited June 24, 2018 by Jojo92122

[Sa Pa 0]

2 minutes ago, Dee elle said:

No. It will be no more a legal document than my grocery list. It is not worth anything. This is more of his manipulation of you. 

If we write through attorney that if he divorce or harm he will have to pay penalty?? Then?? 

Edited June 24, 2018 by Sa Pa

[Jojo92122 1,924]

4 minutes ago, Sa Pa said:

If we write through attorney that if he divorce or harm he will have to pay penalty?? Then?? 

NO.  NOT LEGAL.  NO COURT WILL FORCE HIM TO STAY MARRY IF HE CHANGES HIS MIND AND FILES FOR DIVORCE.  ABSOLUTELY NOT.  NO COURT WOULD ORDER A PAYMENT PENALTY IF HE DOES NOT WANT TO STAY MARRY TO YOU.  AMERICAN COURTS DO NOT FORCE PEOPLE TO STAY MARRY.
 

Edited June 24, 2018 by Jojo92122

[arken 4,197]

1 hour ago, Sa Pa said:

If we write through attorney that if he divorce or harm he will have to pay penalty?? Then?? 

If he hurts you (physically), he could even end up going to jail but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t hurt you if he wants to. 

 

It just feels like there are pieces missing in your story. You come to your parents place on your husband’s petition based GC claiming he is cruel, you seek advice on how to return GC while securing unchecked future travel to US and now that people are suggesting your future travel isn’t guaranteed, you want to go live with your husband if he signs on a paper that he doesn’t hurt or divorce you!! Judging by what you have said so far, it does feel this while marriage was for immigration purpose only.

 

Back to your questions again, if you really think he is cruel and he is a threat to you, no matter what he signs on or says, you don’t wanna go live with him.

[Going through 5,671]

15 hours ago, Sa Pa said:

If we write through attorney that if he divorce or harm he will have to pay penalty?? Then?? 

1)  Any letter like that is not worth anything.

2)  Any letter like that is not legally binding, meaning it doesn't prevent your husband from divorcing you or harming you.

3)  Any husband who comes up with the idea of a letter like that is probably just trying to play with your mind.

4)  Any attorney who actually writes a letter like that or thinks a letter like that will prevent anything is not a good attorney.

[mytruelove18 608]

On 6/24/2018 at 1:54 PM, Sa Pa said:

Please suggest...

 

If I go to my husband, he can give safety by law that he will not give me divorce and will not send me back when 2 years green card expires?? And will not harm me.

Any documental proof can be done?? 

 

On 6/23/2018 at 6:03 AM, fip & jim said:

Sa Pa, did you receive the information about your rights as an immigrant from USCIS?

Here is the link:

http://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/information-legal-rights-available-immigrant-victims-domestic-violence-united-states-and-facts-about-immigrating-marriage-based-visa-fact-sheet

 

"In the United States, victims of crime, regardless of their immigration or citizenship status, can access help provided by government or non-governmental agencies, which may include counseling, interpreters, safety planning, emergency housing and even monetary assistance.

The national telephone numbers or “hotlines” listed below have operators trained to help victims 24-hours a day free of charge.  Interpreters are available and these numbers can connect you with other free services for victims in your local area, including emergency housing, medical care, counseling and legal advice.  If you cannot afford to pay a lawyer you may qualify for a free or low-cost legal aid program for immigrant crime or domestic violence victims.

National Domestic Violence Hotline
1-800-799-SAFE (1-800-799-7233)
1-800-787-3224 (TTY)
www.ndvh.org"

 

Your husband threatening to report you for fraud is abusive. Don't allow his intimidation to get at you. You have rights. Speak to someone at the hotline, they will be able to tell you where to go for advice if they don't know themselves. 

Take care. 

Her husband saying that she is a fruad isnt wrong, he sponsored her to come to usa and she went to live with her parents, how do you call that?, it is clear she use the usc to come to usa to live with her parents.

On 6/24/2018 at 1:54 PM, Sa Pa said:

Please suggest...

 

If I go to my husband, he can give safety by law that he will not give me divorce and will not send me back when 2 years green card expires?? And will not harm me.

Any documental proof can be done?? 

Sorry, but it is clear your husban is right, you are a fraud and yoy only used him to come to usa, look how you are looking any way to stay at usa, 

[Going through 5,671]

Hopefully @Sa Pa can come back and clarify some answers in this thread so we can try to further help her.

[Boiler 45,571]

But probably not.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Ghosting on VJ is common when people get answers they don't want to hear.  

[Going through 5,671]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

But probably not.

Hate hit and run threads like these.

We're always left wondering whatever happened in the end...

[fip & jim 452]

On 27/06/2018 at 6:55 PM, mytruelove18 said:

 

Her husband saying that she is a fruad isnt wrong, he sponsored her to come to usa and she went to live with her parents, how do you call that?, it is clear she use the usc to come to usa to live with her parents.

Sorry, but it is clear your husban is right, you are a fraud and yoy only used him to come to usa, look how you are looking any way to stay at usa, 

Wrong? Clear? I try not to judge without the facts.

I don't presume to know how it feels to be raised in another country with different customs and expectations. Maybe OP didn't know that what she did may be considered fraud in the US.

I was responding to someone saying they feel scared and don't know what to do. I was providing information and signposting. IF anyone uses their spouses immigrant status in an attempt to coerce them that is abusive. That is why USCIS send a pamphlet about abuse and your rights as an immigrant to all approved cases. Why would they that do that? Because it is a problem and happens enough times that they recognise it is a problem. 

[geowrian 22,337]

Unless some threat was made between when she got on the plane and when she decided to live with the parents, I can't imagine a valid VAWA circumstance. It really looks like they used the visa to enter the US to live with the parents, abuse or not. For a valid VAWA claim, one must not only show abuse, but also that they entered the marriage in good faith. That second piece is the one that sounds near-impossible given the facts.

 

Edit: Sorry, looks like they already have a green card so VAWA doesn't apply...just ROC with an abuse waiver. But the rest of it stands...just not VAWA specifically.

Edited June 30, 2018 by geowrian

[Boiler 45,571]

I can only come to one conclusion.

 

Based on the facts.

 

If there are others I am intrigued as to what they could be.

[fip & jim 452]

26 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I can only come to one conclusion.

 

Based on the facts.

 

If there are others I am intrigued as to what they could be.

Why would she come back & do that? You already said you've come to conclusions.