President Trump signs order to stop family separations

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

What do you think the chances of that happening are? 

Honestly? Not much. I can't say I'm really proud of anyone in Congress right now. While my beliefs and opinions most closely align with democrats, I'm far from loyal just because of that. Politics in the USA is a disappointment in general.

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34 minutes ago, bcking said:

Honestly? Not much. I can't say I'm really proud of anyone in Congress right now. While my beliefs and opinions most closely align with democrats, I'm far from loyal just because of that. Politics in the USA is a disappointment in general.

I think if there are no appropriations, the GOP could do it by themselves, but I could be wrong.

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4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think if there are no appropriations, the GOP could do it by themselves, but I could be wrong.

Can anything regarding the Wall be done without appropriations?

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

What do you think the chances of that happening are? 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/21/trump-immigration-order-met-with-shrugs-and-new-demands-from-dems-this-isnt-over.html

Trump immigration order met with shrugs and new demands from Dems: 'This isn't over'

 

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48 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/21/trump-immigration-order-met-with-shrugs-and-new-demands-from-dems-this-isnt-over.html

Trump immigration order met with shrugs and new demands from Dems: 'This isn't over'

 

Of course it didn't.  What is refreshing is that the Dems are really starting to own their Open Borders position.  I am sure that will help them a lot in November.

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Oh, but open borders are the most efficient solution to avoid family separation!

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1 hour ago, bcking said:

Can anything regarding the Wall be done without appropriations?

Maybe drop the wall for now and just take care of the need for more judges to hear asylum cases, and deportations for those that aren't granted asylum (~80% of the applicants). 

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7 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Oh, but open borders are the most efficient solution to avoid family separation!

Have you ever heard the Democrat leaders advocate for Open Borders anymore than they have in the past few days?  I believe all 48 D senators plus Bernie himself signed on to Feinstein's bill.  Apparently Trump has them so worked up their are dropping their veneer.

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Let us be reminded of how many tourist visas are refused because of the official assumption that every applicant is an intending immigrant.

 

Why should the criteria for those who break the rules be less stringent than the rules for those who play by the rules?

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53 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Let us be reminded of how many tourist visas are refused because of the official assumption that every applicant is an intending immigrant.

 

Why should the criteria for those who break the rules be less stringent than the rules for those who play by the rules?

and why is it ok to label all filipinos as high risk of immigration fraud and require extra scrutiny, but if you do it to Muslim countries you are racist 

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1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

Let us be reminded of how many tourist visas are refused because of the official assumption that every applicant is an intending immigrant.

 

Why should the criteria for those who break the rules be less stringent than the rules for those who play by the rules?

To me, refusing a toursit visa isn't the same thing as assuming you aren't the parent to your child.

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6 minutes ago, bcking said:

To me, refusing a toursit visa isn't the same thing as assuming you aren't the parent to your child.

There are times I feel I don't want to be the parent of my kids. I remind my wife, how stupid we look arguing with a 3 year old. Just like with a spouse, you learn to pick fights you can win as you'll never win them all.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

and why is it ok to label all filipinos as high risk of immigration fraud and require extra scrutiny, but if you do it to Muslim countries you are racist 

 

  There are millions of Filipino's in the USA and a 100 years of history with immigration. There is a pattern that exists (not just with the PI, but with many countries). The same pattern does not exist with Muslims in general. 

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30 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  There are millions of Filipino's in the USA and a 100 years of history with immigration. There is a pattern that exists (not just with the PI, but with many countries). The same pattern does not exist with Muslims in general. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

You need to learn the difference between radical islam (not real Islam) and Islam. It's like night and day and the radical islamists are loco. Muslims are nice.