Peter Fonda should go to jail !!

[Steeleballz 7,550]

15 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

keep it up I might give you a MOR driving pass.  In this forum. A lot of the fringe moon bats have been weeded out 

 

  Checked my alignment and it's still pulling to the left a bit.  I'll be back in the ditch before that pass happens. 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Checked my alignment and it's still pulling to the left a bit.  I'll be back in the ditch before that pass happens. 

Lol... intelligent discourse always appreciated

[Ban Hammer 13,508]

[Crazy Cat 42,198]

1 hour ago, elmcitymaven said:

Peter Fonda's speech, as abhorrent as it is (and it is absolutely repellent and beyond the pale), is protected by the First Amendment.

No, it isnt.....do a little research...

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 minutes ago, missileman said:

No, it isnt.....do a little research...

 

  Does law school not qualify as research?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

11 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Does law school not qualify as research?

Preparing for the California Bar right now! 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

41 minutes ago, elmcitymaven said:

Preparing for the California Bar right now! 

 

     Good luck Maven. I don't think you will need it, but all the same.

[bcking 3,157]

2 hours ago, missileman said:

No, it isnt.....do a little research...

Haha I'd take her opinion on a topic like this over yours any day.

 

 

[bcking 3,157]

3 hours ago, elmcitymaven said:

Peter Fonda's speech, as abhorrent as it is (and it is absolutely repellent and beyond the pale), is protected by the First Amendment. While it is true that some speech is unprotected, this does not fall into that category. In order to do so, it would have to pass this test: Are the words intended to incite immediate criminal action, and is there a likelihood of imminent danger of such action? We're not talking about whether some loony takes this into their head that the suggestion is a good idea. The example I recall from school is where there's a seething mob, and guy is standing there handing out pitchforks saying, "Go get that [*expletive deleted*]!" If the danger is imminent that the mob will take those pitchforks and stab the [*expletive deleted*] because (1) they've now got weapons and (2) there is an immediate opportunity that there's going to be some stabbing because the SOB is just around the corner, the speech is unprotected. But, if there's a mob, and pitchforks, and the guy telling the mob to go get the SOB, but the SOB is, say, on the other side of the country, or anywhere where the danger of criminal activity is not IMMINENT, the speech is protected, even if it is abhorrent. 

 

There's no imminence here, and there's probably no likelihood of harm. It's gross, but it's protected speech. It is a high hurdle to pass for good reason, because we have a super-awesome First Amendment and it is meant to protect us from government action except in certain, very circumscribed instances. 

 

Funtimes reading here: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/395/444/case.html

Just curious -

 

Are you familiar with any of the cases of people who receives criminal charges for online threats against President Obama? Apparently there were like 60 of them.

 

I agree the hurdle is high, but then I found examples of many cases where it was met. I'll try to find them again.

 

Here's one for example -

 

http://abc13.com/news/man-charged-with-threatening-to-kill-obama/1730684/

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