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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hong Kong
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11 hours ago, PKKR said:

It's of course bonafide. Couple of lawyers told me annulment means marriage never existed so you can't claim to remove condition. I do have all lease, pic, joint insurance etc etc..

Fraud here is not what you think it is.  

 

If your marriage is annulled, then it is as the marriage never existed. 

 

I would agree with your lawyer you have no ground to remove condition. 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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5 hours ago, PKKR said:

I'm sorry to say but I don't think so. If you were a lawyer I could easily beat you in this case. I'm leaving this comment because future reader shouldn't get discouraged. Please avoid lawyer for simple cases  i.e.  arranging papers and giving a Courier service for thousands, Unless you've problem with reading and writing stuff. In bottom of my heart I already know it's a win but I'm still here for second opinion as it's always good to be confident but not overconfident. I cherish people who all are sharing their thoughts with me and deeply thankful to em, rest there are bunch of law firms in my city & I don't need lame obvious advise from someone on VJ to go there,  Good luck.

I agree Lawyers are not needed for simple cases.

 

Well most people do not need them.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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It is possible to complete ROC with an annulment. That said, in practicality, it is an extremely uphill climb as there will be a presumption of fraud. Numerous BIA court rulings have supported this line of thought.

 

That said, usually the cause of annulment by fraud is filed by the USC, so this case is a bit more unique. Either way, I very highly suggest seeking sound legal advice from a qualified immigration attorney. You are free to do this yourself, but you would likely be making a less optimal case and you will need the strongest case you can find, especially if/when it goes to an immigration judge.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Sounds like a Danielle/Mohammed Anthesa/Jorge story from 90 Day Fiance.  To annul marriage because of a broken promise in regards to having children.  I got news for you, when you date someone from the US and you are international, and the US spouse makes promises, you better be careful.  It would be behoove the non-US person to educate themselves about the US and realize that Americans can't always deliver.  Yes, Americans can provide love and can be committed to a relationship like anyone else, and both parties can be ambitious about future plans such as having kids, etc.  I believe that  both parties can commit to one another-but they have to realize reality-things happen in life.  Make that an understanding that there are no guarantees.  Then you avoid situations like this.       

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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10 hours ago, KeratNY said:

How did you even lose this annulment case? Did you not use a lawyer? Seems like a simple one for you to win. Why couldn't you just say "I thought I wanted children and then I changed my mind" and won the case and gotten it changed to a divorce? (that wouldn't be "fraud" or "dishonesty" so you must not have put forth this argument.)

 

The fact that you lost this case is very troubling and means you may not have what it takes to make a persuasive case for ROC. If indeed you did not get a lawyer the first time around, aren't you once bitten twice shy? 

My understanding is that it was OP who filed for annulment, OP wanted children, the USC ex didn't.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

Posted
8 hours ago, mcdull said:

Fraud here is not what you think it is.  

 

If your marriage is annulled, then it is as the marriage never existed. 

 

I would agree with your lawyer you have no ground to remove condition. 

Federal regulation i.e.  "8 CFR 216.5"  permits me, Please open the link, it just have to be termination be it annulment or divorce . Please provide input of your thoughts on this, Thankyou. Also couple of lawyer did tell it's possible.

 

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=7ed33cae56480a0215b7fd0bc7967275&mc=true&node=se8.1.216_15&rgn=div8

 
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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I for one do not think it can not be done, may well be fact specific, just not a normal issue, one where the Lawyers make the big bucks.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 
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