Immigrant Children Cry Out in Audio Recorded at Detention Center

[TBoneTX 45,301]

10 hours ago, missileman said:

Trump signs order to stop family separations

I'm waiting to see which Federal judge will declare this to be unconstitutional...

[Ironclad43 131]

Probably a democrat.

[bcking 3,157]

8 hours ago, IDWAF said:

I’m not much of a praying person, but I sincerely hope we don’t have to read about a child raped in detention because of this.

Not actually sure which situation has a higher risk. A bunch of children in one place with none of their parents being watched by "security", or keeping children with their parents. You do realize Americans rape children also, right? 

 

Unless there is data to suggest otherwise, it's reasonable to assume that the majority of children are travelling with their real family. 

 

As to the EO - I'm not ashamed to say that Trump has won points in my book. I was genuinely surprised (in a good way) to read that after work yesterday. 

[Unidentified 2,930]

5 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

I'm waiting to see which Federal judge will declare this to be unconstitutional...

If they do I hope they find it unconstitutional to rip babies away from mother's in prisons right after delivery as well. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

46 minutes ago, bcking said:

Not actually sure which situation has a higher risk. A bunch of children in one place with none of their parents being watched by "security", or keeping children with their parents. You do realize Americans rape children also, right? 

 

Unless there is data to suggest otherwise, it's reasonable to assume that the majority of children are travelling with their real family.

 

As to the EO - I'm not ashamed to say that Trump has won points in my book. I was genuinely surprised (in a good way) to read that after work yesterday. 

You mean historical data, like in 2014/15, when illegals were sending their kids over with anyone who would take them in record numbers?  Or are you expecting this new crop of illegals to just up and tell you themselves?

[bcking 3,157]

16 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

You mean historical data, like in 2014/15, when illegals were sending their kids over with anyone who would take them in record numbers?  Or are you expecting this new crop of illegals to just up and tell you themselves?

Could you send me the link to those numbers?

 

"Record numbers" doesn't mean much. One case could be a record, if it was the first. Not saying that's the case here but, you know...

Edited June 21, 2018 by bcking

[Dashinka 24,505]

1 hour ago, bcking said:

Not actually sure which situation has a higher risk. A bunch of children in one place with none of their parents being watched by "security", or keeping children with their parents. You do realize Americans rape children also, right? 

 

Unless there is data to suggest otherwise, it's reasonable to assume that the majority of children are travelling with their real family. 

 

As to the EO - I'm not ashamed to say that Trump has won points in my book. I was genuinely surprised (in a good way) to read that after work yesterday. 

I am not sure that is a safe assumption given how things occur at the border.  I realize many want to think that, but short of data showing these are all families, I think we need to remain open minded.

[Dashinka 24,505]

29 minutes ago, bcking said:

Could you send me the link to those numbers?

 

"Record numbers" doesn't mean much. One case could be a record, if it was the first. Not saying that's the case here but, you know...

Here is a story regarding the numbers in 2015.  There was 10,500 unaccompanied minors crossing the border in a two month period.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/12/16/unaccompanied-children-crossing-southern-border-in-greater-numbers-again-raising-fears-of-new-migrant-crisis/?utm_term=.1e511f4770fc

[bcking 3,157]

45 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Here is a story regarding the numbers in 2015.  There was 10,500 unaccompanied minors crossing the border in a two month period.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/12/16/unaccompanied-children-crossing-southern-border-in-greater-numbers-again-raising-fears-of-new-migrant-crisis/?utm_term=.1e511f4770fc

Those are by themselves. I thought IDWAF was talking about children crossing the border with adults that weren't their family? Unaccompanied minors clearly aren't going to be placed with adults that they didn't show up with. That doesn't make any sense.

 

I'm not trying to be onery. I'll gladly get on board with your concerns if I say any evidence to suggest it is a significant issue.

 

They are simple numbers I'm looking for -

1. Total number of children crossing in a given period

2. Number of children crossing with an adult that isn't a family member in the same given period.

 

Obviously since number 2 requires time to investigate I'm not looking for 2018 data. 2015 would be fine.

 

 

[Boiler 45,521]

8 minutes ago, bcking said:

Those are by themselves. I thought IDWAF was talking about children crossing the border with adults that weren't their family? Unaccompanied minors clearly aren't going to be placed with adults that they didn't show up with. That doesn't make any sense.

 

I'm not trying to be onery. I'll gladly get on board with your concerns if I say any evidence to suggest it is a significant issue.

 

They are simple numbers I'm looking for -

1. Total number of children crossing in a given period

2. Number of children crossing with an adult that isn't a family member in the same given period.

 

Obviously since number 2 requires time to investigate I'm not looking for 2018 data. 2015 would be fine.

 

 

These are child migrants entering the UK:

 

[bcking 3,157]

3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

These are child migrants entering the UK:

 

Are you reading posts before you quote?

 

What does that have to do with children showing up with adults who claim to be family but are not, and then subsequently rape the children?

 

If anything those examples make me wonder how safe it really is to put all of the "child migrants" together without their parents.

[Boiler 45,521]

3 minutes ago, bcking said:

Are you reading posts before you quote?

 

What does that have to do with children showing up with adults who claim to be family but are not, and then subsequently rape the children?

 

If anything those examples make me wonder how safe it really is to put all of the "child migrants" together without their parents.

These entered as children, children with beards are very common migrants, I understand that the stress of the journey causes them to grow.

[cyclone27 710]

Alledged parents 

[bcking 3,157]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

These entered as children, children with beards are very common migrants, I understand that the stress of the journey causes them to grow.

The topic is children entering with "parents" who aren't their parents, and then subsequently being put at risk by staying with them.

 

Again - your point is what? Trying to change the subject?

Edited June 21, 2018 by bcking

[Boiler 45,521]

1 minute ago, bcking said:

The topic is children entering with "parents" who aren't their parents, and then subsequently being put at risk by staying with them.

 

Again - your point is what? Trying to change the subject?

Immigrant Children Cry Out in Audio Recorded at Detention Center

 

This is what I am seeing?