Hamas' Jihad Mouse

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Erm, aren't we all here presenting our own opinions on everything under the sun? What an idiotic thing to say!

Yes, you are right...I present my own opinions! Radical concept, I know.

Btw, I never once told you not to post or express your opinion. So take off your defense shoulderpads and try to have a conversation...or just ignore me in future, mmmmmmmmmkay?

Well, it's entirely possible that I find many of your posts to be idiotic, as well. But that's beside the point.

It seems that you are reading some kind of "tone" in my replies that isn't there. You repeatedly expressed your opinion that the pics of the Israeli girls are somehow inappropriate in this thread. And I said, well, that's your opinion, and my opinion differs. For some reason this continues to irritate you. *shrug*

Your truth, my truth, or any other person's?

Is there something "untrue" about the pics I've posted ? Please elaborate.

I never said these things only happen in Palestine.

And.... I never said that you said that.

What I said was YOU SEEMED TO ME to be somehow 'excusing' this mouse by whipping out your 'oh they do it toooo! and here's pictures!' response. I found it odd, so I said so.

OK -- that's what you "think" I meant. But it's not at all what I said. Please try to consider what I actually write, and not your own "embellishments."

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[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Not even a 'yeah this is awful'...you just came in with a smug attitude and pictures which hey, you're free to post (you didn't answer about the copyright thing btw)...but for Westerners to not be disgusted at this kind of a mentality just seems very cold-blooded.

Again. You need to read more carefully. It seems you missed this (even though you quoted it with your response):

LisaD -- you almost got it right -- "WOW it's horrible." This is the absolute truth.

and

Now do *all* Israelis or Palestinians take part this kind of behavior ? Of course not. There are many reasonable folks on each side who are rightfully horrified at such incidents involving kids.

I can't sit here and claim to be an authority on this awful situation with this feud that will never end...but I can say when I see a focked up situation, and that mouse and those kids singing those songs are focked up. And no amount of 'they did it too!' will diminish responsibility. It doesn't work with kids when they get caught goofin around, and it shouldn't work as adults.

If you don't want to hear that, well that's too bad

Again. You think that you are reacting to "those songs," but actually you are reacting to the translation provided by PMW, which has taken quite a few "liberties" with the script. I will expand on this in my reply to Scott&Lai (wouldn't be fair to let you to hog all my time !)

BTW I haven’t seen you charging into threads which discuss issues from the Palestinian point of view, demanding that no one present the Israeli side of the issue. LOL. So nice try, but no cigar.

Try for what exactly?

Nice try in attempting to shout down the other side of the story.

We're correcting typos now? Come on, you're better than that, no?

Now now.... don't get your defensive shoulder pads on (heh heh.) I didn't know if you made a typo or not. I just like to make sure we're talking about the same thing. One time I used an incorrect acronym and Sriniv wanted to deplore me.

PMW did not make the video. End of story.

Not quite the "end" of story. PMW made the subtitles, and took some "liberties" with the translation.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

(BTW.... I notice that LisaD has not popped in to scold you for being Off the Topic of the Mouse. )

omG you've mentioned my name in like how many of the last posts?

I think once in a post that didn't directly address you. (That's not anywhere near as many times as you've mentioned "copyrights" in your posts.) Don't get your defensive shoulder pads on, now.

I made a blanket statement that it was a shame it turned into '#######-for-tat'...you said it wasn't #######-for-tat, and I explained why I felt that way & asked for clarification. Of which you never answered.

I've explained my point several times. But you don't want to hear it.

I pointed your piccies out because you trotted them out like some golden goose to prove a point, even though you've already been corrected on those pictures in the past. Yet you still used them.

And do I think smoke shells are the same as the mouse? No, I don't.

In fact, the so-called "correction" about the so-called "smoke shells" has unfortunately turned out to be pure BS....

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Sooo WoM....... what do you think of Hamas' mouse? We already know how you feel about the Jews.

Just last week, you tried to associate me with terrorists. Now you try the old anti-semite smear.

I need some sleep.... the rest will have to wait until tomorrow.

[peezey 0]

Sooo WoM....... what do you think of Hamas' mouse? We already know how you feel about the Jews.

We've never heard once what WOM feels about "the Jews", but we've certainly heard over and over again what you think of WOM.

Don't you have anything better than unsubstantiated personal attacks?

[Ban Hammer 13,643]

In fact, the so-called "correction" about the so-called "smoke shells" has unfortunately turned out to be pure BS....

so what are they then?

(and no, they are not smoke shell, i threw that at you months ago to see if you'd research or pipe down - you chose the latter).

Don't you have anything better than unsubstantiated personal attacks?

i'll so have to remember this quote

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I wonder if its even possible to have a "balanced" debate about this issue... For one side to actually admit that the other might actually have some valid points in its condemnation of their tactics and behaviour, without the need to muddy the waters by turning it into a point scoring exercise about who is worse.

Given that people living outside of Israel/Palestine situation can't seem to do that, there's small hope that those with the biggest investment in it can either...

[chri'stina 190]

I wonder if its even possible to have a "balanced" debate about this issue... For one side to actually admit that the other might actually have some valid points in its condemnation of their tactics and behaviour, without the need to muddy the waters by turning it into a point scoring exercise about who is worse.

Given that people living outside of Israel/Palestine situation can't seem to do that, there's small hope that those with the biggest investment in it can either...

Gotta agree with you on that.