Fiancee just got Denied

[VanDerFran 10]

How and where did you and her met ?

 

Is there a love story to tell ?

 

How is her communications skills ?

 

Did u saw the refusal letter already? 

 

[Scandi 4,102]

2 hours ago, WokTheDog said:

No, she has never been petitioned before.   She had a previous fiance, but broke it off because she found him cheating on her.    She has never been a hostess or bargirl.   

 

5 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

Has she been petitioned for before? 

 

[WokTheDog 17]

I met her through a friend of mine on Facebook.   We shared some stories, had a few laughs.   I talked to her everyday for 7 months, then visited her for 3 weeks.   What originally attracted me to her, was her relationship with her daughter.   She always put her as her number 1 priority in life.   You could see the love.    Both are funny, so I immediately was interested in meeting.   When I visited, her daughter was first a little hesitant about me, but it didn't take long for us to get along well together.   I know they both love me and it is not fake.   I love the both of them as well.   It just saddens me It will take me over a year to possibly have them arrive if all things go well.   I will try and visit at least two more times.   Probably end up marrying her and file a CR-1.   

 

She didn't go to high school, but is very smart about life and is very mature for her age.   I don't care that she doesn't have a college degree or that she may not have perfect English, I still love her.   My previous marriage was also to a filipina, but things just never worked out.  

 

 

 

[WokTheDog 17]

44 minutes ago, Scandi said:

 

 

He was from Sweden, not the USA.  They had started doing paperwork, but never submitted anything to the Swedish government.

[TNJ17 1,329]

6 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

I disagree.  The age difference was not likely the reason for the denial.  Perhaps we are not getting the entire story here.  I am 37 years older than my Pinay spouse.  I have a feeling if petitioner had been at the interview as I was he could have answered some questions and put the CO's mind at ease.  We married in the Philippines on my first visit with a Protestant Pastor.  No classes required.  It was only 40 or so days after we first met on-line.    I visited her, proposed three days later and we were married 4 days after that.  I visited her two more times for upwards of a month at a time.  I attended the interview with her and the CO asked me more questions than they did her.  I am 90% sure that had I not been there she would have been denied.  Hopefully the OP will attend the interview the next time around by way of a CR-1.  

I did not say it was the only reason. And really compare your story to theirs. You visited two more times for a month each. You were at the interview. You were married. Your applied for CR1. A whole lot of difference than what they did. Your age difference was probably a red flag for them too but you had other stuff to back up your relationship. They didn’t. Big difference. 

[WokTheDog 17]

I watched a few videos from experts and read some articles.   I think what I'm going to do is visit her again after my project at the end of July, get lots of pictures with her and her family, refile K1 Visa, will try to visit her again, before the interview, then go  to the interview with her and her child.   The visa coach I was watching says that after the first denial, if a scam, will break up.   He said to file again to show your love.   I am starting to think that is a good option.   I will be there for the interview too, which will really help i think.

[geowrian 22,337]

9 minutes ago, WokTheDog said:

I watched a few videos from experts and read some articles.   I think what I'm going to do is visit her again after my project at the end of July, get lots of pictures with her and her family, refile K1 Visa, will try to visit her again, before the interview, then go  to the interview with her and her child.   The visa coach I was watching says that after the first denial, if a scam, will break up.   He said to file again to show your love.   I am starting to think that is a good option.   I will be there for the interview too, which will really help i think.

That is one option. However, I would personally advise getting married. If they were to deny it again (it's an extra hurdle with a prior refusal due to not having a bona fide relationship IMO), the petition would be sent back and you can contest it at that time so that USCIS reaffirms it. If you do another K-1, you may end up back in the same position sometime next year.

If you want to get married, I suggest getting married.

But it is your call...just know that it may be setting you up for a repeat of history.

[Crazy Cat 41,183]

I agree 100% with @geowrian .  Getting married has the advantages mentioned in his post as well as the other superior aspects of a CR-1 vs K-1.

CR-1

    Less expensive than K-1

    No AOS required.

    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US

    Spouse can start work if desired

    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card withing 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US

    Spouse  has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.

[JFH 12,189]

Have you looked into moving to the Philippines? 

[VanDerFran 10]

Brother, I feel for you, I suggest getting married, but with the understand that there is no divorce there.  Second, I suggest going more often for shorter periods, that is what I do, like a week or so, I know it is a pain, case we loose 3 days on the air.  but that is what I do.

 

[geowrian 22,337]

13 minutes ago, VanDerFran said:

Brother, I feel for you, I suggest getting married, but with the understand that there is no divorce there.

Divorce is possible outside the Philippines, and is recognized within the Philippines (via a court process) between a Filipino national and non-Filipino national.

[David & Diana R 1,005]

58 minutes ago, TNJ17 said:

I did not say it was the only reason. And really compare your story to theirs. You visited two more times for a month each. You were at the interview. You were married. Your applied for CR1. A whole lot of difference than what they did. Your age difference was probably a red flag for them too but you had other stuff to back up your relationship. They didn’t. Big difference. 

Did you read my post?  I didn't say that you said that is was the only reason.

[David & Diana R 1,005]

45 minutes ago, WokTheDog said:

I watched a few videos from experts and read some articles.   I think what I'm going to do is visit her again after my project at the end of July, get lots of pictures with her and her family, refile K1 Visa, will try to visit her again, before the interview, then go  to the interview with her and her child.   The visa coach I was watching says that after the first denial, if a scam, will break up.   He said to file again to show your love.   I am starting to think that is a good option.   I will be there for the interview too, which will really help i think.

Did I read that you were previously married to a pinay?  Did you bring her from the Philippines?  That could be a red flag for sure depending on how long the marriage lasted, how long ago, etc...  So now you watched some videos  from "experts" and have decided to totally disregard nearly everyone here and refile for yet another K-1.  Yeah, I think you should go for another K-1.  Go for it!  And let us know what happens.   I'm out until I hear about your second K-1 denial and you come back for more advice again.

Edited June 6, 2018 by David & Zoila

[POA 178]

4 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

The CO making comments like this is inappropriate to say the least.  I have a feeling your fiance misunderstood or misinterpreted something here.  I mean, I have never heard of CO's making moral judgements in the Manila embassy.  Just sayin.

That's kinda what I was thinking. I am not saying that your OP's fiancee doesn't speak fluent English but sometimes, things can be misinterpreted. Ex. When my husband and uncle spoke and my husband said Hey! (in a neutral way, like Hi, my uncle(Filipino) took it as disrespectful. 

 

OP, I am sorry to hear about the denial. Unless they made a real error and have records, your best choice may be CR1. 

 

 

[VanDerFran 10]

1 hour ago, geowrian said:

Divorce is possible outside the Philippines, and is recognized within the Philippines (via a court process) between a Filipino national and non-Filipino national.

Divorce in the Philippines is not possible, yes annulment can be done with another country divorce decree, but it is costly and if she can't get visa to get here, it makes matters worse.