Fiancee just got Denied

[Rocko20 159]

I would probably try to consult with an immigration attorney with years of experience to see all all the options on the table. Then, like the officer suggested,  I would get ready to fly there and prepare a CR1

[mymarley 14]

Im just reading thefirst part of your story. Im guessing already,this must be philippines. Im k1 k2 too, got approver after my interview. I dont think they can be judgemental there. It just maybe some of the questions to

your fiancee didnt meet the answers  they  needed. The questions were always  tricky. 

Some are simple some are not. My hhusband   visited us many times before we filed the petition and due to my annulment. I brought like a bag of evidence of our relationship and the guard kept laughing at me and even asked me if i forgot some more evidence in our house i said yeah i forgot those stuffed toys my fiance gave me... Weve been patience to our k1k2 journey but everything worth it. Goodluck to you and to your fiancee.

[mymarley 14]

8 minutes ago, Rocko20 said:

I would probably try to consult with an immigration attorney with years of experience to see all all the options on the table. Then, like the officer suggested,  I would get ready to fly there and prepare a CR1

Haha i saw ur reactions to mycomment, everytime i remembered those days i kept laughing too.. I put all my powers to that interview just glad my daughter found a friend inthe embassy and they just keep running inside the embassy while everyone was nervous. 

[Umka36 781]

OP, not to sound rude but at least your fiancée got a better explanation of why the denial instead of the standard lack of genuine relationship.

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the embassy in the Philippines allows the petitioner to be with the beneficiary during the interview. If so, I highly recommend you attend next time. While my wife and I did not go through the Philippines, I was allowed to attend her interview in Warsaw Poland. My wife was calmer with me there, and I was able to interact with the CO to answer any questions that they may have.

Edited June 5, 2018 by Umka36

[JMCKNG 156]

I agree with one of the above comments with the aspect of another visit or two couldn't hurt the case. Although, your relationship is true I'm sure they see a lot of instances in where the age gap raises a red flag and although they might not make the decision based off the age gap as that can happen these days they will look at other corresponding contributions to prove that the relationship is real and possibly the one visit was the final determining factor. Although people have stated this embassy doesn't "require" 2 meetings, the 2 time requirement still stands online and I would always rather be safe than sorry with meeting the "global" criteria, more the better!

Edited June 5, 2018 by JMCKNG

[optlh0 19]

My wife and I have a 29 year age gap and it wasn't a problem. But, I had visited 6 times over 3 years and was there for the interview. Had a number of pictures of us doing tourist things through the years and many pictures of us with her family at special events like relatives birthdays and such. If there aren't pictures of you with her family you should definitely get some. Being there at the next interview would likely improve your chances as well.

 

My understanding is that in order to do a Catholic ceremony in the Philippines it requires that you attend classes in person there. If time is an issue for you (which it sounds like it is) you should plan on doing a civil ceremony instead.

 

As frustrating and costly as this has been at least if you get married there and get the CR1 approved she'll get a green card upon arriving in the US. That means she can work and travel immediately instead of having to Adjust Status here. (Which is more time and money to get that done). Best of luck to you 

 

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

2 minutes ago, optlh0 said:

My wife and I have a 29 year age gap and it wasn't a problem. But, I had visited 6 times over 3 years and was there for the interview. Had a number of pictures of us doing tourist things through the years and many pictures of us with her family at special events like relatives birthdays and such. If there aren't pictures of you with her family you should definitely get some. Being there at the next interview would likely improve your chances as well.

My understanding is that in order to do a Catholic ceremony in the Philippines it requires that you attend classes in person there. If time is an issue for you (which it sounds like it is) you should plan on doing a civil ceremony instead.

As frustrating and costly as this has been at least if you get married there and get the CR1 approved she'll get a green card upon arriving in the US. That means she can work and travel immediately instead of having to Adjust Status here. (Which is more time and money to get that done). Best of luck to you 

This is true and it's about a week worth of classes and the OP has to be a Catholic as well or convert to being Catholic. I inquired about it with my wife and they asked if I was baptized and if so what denomination. So I responded back to them that "Yes I am baptized and I grew up in being Methodist", they said that that was good but I would still have to convert to being Catholic. Some priests may be more lenient some not so much. We did have a poster late last year who did the classes while in the USA and then did the wedding in the Philippines.

[mcdull 474]

Manila denying K1? That's breaking news.

 

I'd visit few more times.

[TNJ17 1,329]

Sorry about your denial but I see where the consular is coming from. Your age difference is a huge red flag when combined with only one visit and not a lot of relationship evidence, it seems right to be denied. Unfortunately the hard truth for you is that your K1 is dead. By USCIS rules a K1 cannot be appealed. Don’t spend your money or waste your time trying to fix the K1. In the end you will have not changed the outcome and will have spent a lot of money and wasted time. Go there ASAP and marry her and file for a CR1. Make several trips down after that and during the process because when her interview comes along they’ll know the K1 denial based on not enough evidence so you’re gonna have to prove them wrong and show in paper that your relationship is real. Good luck. 

[jan22 3,043]

12 hours ago, WokTheDog said:

I just read somewhere where you can go to the embassy to ask for a review of your case by the embassy's consulate general or a supervisory officer.   Has anyone ever had any luck with that? or wasting my time?

 

Bob

All refusals are automatically reviewed by a supervisory officer.

[duckhunter1 18]

I feel bad for you in this situation.   I would go to your Congressman, just walk in the office tell them the store, have all your documents with you and request an additional interview with a different CO.  Just my thoughts.  It sounds like the guy was just having a bad day and wanted to make someone else's day bad too.

[TNJ17 1,329]

1 minute ago, duckhunter1 said:

I feel bad for you in this situation.   I would go to your Congressman, just walk in the office tell them the store, have all your documents with you and request an additional interview with a different CO.  Just my thoughts.  It sounds like the guy was just having a bad day and wanted to make someone else's day bad too.

K1s cannot be appealed. Unfortunately a congressman wouldn’t help in this matter. They wouldn’t allow a second interview after a denial. Once a K1 is denied it is dead. Best to file CR1. 

[Liam2021 582]

He also said the age difference was to great (her 26 and me 57)

This is one of the big reason and you don't have any evidence to back up for it.

The best you can do right now is getting married with her and then file for CR1.

Good luck.

[duckhunter1 18]

7 minutes ago, TNJ17 said:

K1s cannot be appealed. Unfortunately a congressman wouldn’t help in this matter. They wouldn’t allow a second interview after a denial. Once a K1 is denied it is dead. Best to file CR1. 

My fiancé is on the way here.   I'm 25 yrs her senior, I visited her once, submitted photos but not in a club.   I don't see the difference in my case and the guy whose fiancé got denied.  Weird.   Seems a little unfair to me.

[javadown2 308]

11 minutes ago, H&T said:

He also said the age difference was to great (her 26 and me 57)

This is one of the big reason and you don't have any evidence to back up for it.

The best you can do right now is getting married with her and then file for CR1.

Good luck.

Nope, you are wrong....it's not an issue in the Philippines usually....this comment alone by the CO makes me wonder what the whole conversation was about and why he said what he did. 

 

 

As others have stated...you should get an official denial letter I believe, but sounds like you may have to file a CR-1 (which you are aware of already). Sorry for another delay, better visit a few times (it'a always fun there!) and gather better evidence (pictures with family). My wife and I have a fairly large age gap but we never show pictures of going to a disco (not our thing), we had plenty of pictures with family and I went there twice before filing. But your evidence now will be much different then for the K-1, which I'm sure you are aware of. Anyways, anything is possible if you stay persistent and the love is genuine. 

 

good luck!

Edited June 5, 2018 by javadown2