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4 minutes ago, andy78 said:

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but in joint filing situations where circumstances change between the filing and the interview (such as, the parties filing divorce or intending to do so),  isn't the right way to handle this is to to inform USCIS about the change in circumstances and submit a letter to amend the I-751 and request changing it from joint filing to a divorce waiver, and informing USCIS that the divorce is in progress?

 

Yes, you are correct. But if you change your case from joint to waiver right before the interview or after, you will not be able to get the divorce decree on time.

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38 minutes ago, Leslie B. said:

Yes, you are correct. But if you change your case from joint to waiver right before the interview or after, you will not be able to get the divorce decree on time.

Doesn't matter ultimately, albeit massively inconvenient coupled with scary USCIS denial letters in the mix.

 

Yes, if they issue an RFE for a final decree (usually 87/90 days response time) and you can't provide it in that time, you would receive a denial.

Your options then would be:

a) wait until you get an NTA (notice to appear) and you can present the decree to an immigration judge who will order it re-opened. However, an NTA and court appearance can be years away.

b) file another I-751 when you have the decree, shortly before, or whenever you like (although little point if they will just RFE you for it immediately and you can't provide it again). There is no limit on the number of I-751s that can be filed, and any filed and pending I-751s MUST all be adjudicated by USCIS before a final order of removal (ie, termination of status) can be made by a judge, and you remain a permanent resident until that time.

 

 

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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I dont know why people give advice like “game over”

 

first, what the person means by “game over” is, that they suspect fraud, if thats the case, you have a battle ahead of you but not game over,  in most cases it takes around 10years before i751 is fully gone through denial process and appeals etc etc etc all the way to deportation. You can read some case laws about this. 

 

If your story is legitimate and you fell out of marriage in the months leading up to interview, you’ll need send a letter rescheduling the interview and explaining the separation, then start the divorce proceedings. 

 

At this point, lot of things can happen, and the most common one is, they deny you, and it would take around 2 years to recieve NTA, in that time, you are legal resident, finish your divorce and apply with a new waiver. With good proof, you can even get approved without an interview.  

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If the spouse doesn't show (barring a handful of reasons for not doing so, such as military deployment, medical issues, etc.), expect a denial.

Worse yet, if the spouse does show and decides to throw you under the bus, you're going to almost certainly be be denied and have a hard time fighting it with an IJ or future I-751.

 

You can switch to a divorce waiver anytime, although you may or may not have enough time to provide the final divorce decree, which would result in a denial.

If denied, you can file a new I-751 and do the divorce waiver. USCIS may refer your case to an IJ and have an NTA issued concurrently with the denial, or (usually) they may just issue the denial, followed by an NTA later (in which case you can just refile and let USCIS adjudicate it).

 

It does take USCIS some time for the denial and removal proceedings to go through the system if one contests it with a good attorney. It usually takes at least a few years from initial denial to an actual removal ..sometimes longer. Given the current backlogs with both USCIS and immigration courts, this is likely extended by a couple years as well unless they is an uptake in processing speeds / decrease in workloads.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Just as a note, after looking at the OP's past post history.

He has been asking about this since Dec 2017 and has been given the same answers.

Don't stay in the marriage because you think it may help your ROC case. It could actually hurt it if your spouse does not show to the interview, and then refuse to sign divorce papers.

*More detailed timeline in profile!*
 
Relationship:     Friends since 2010, Together since 2013

 K-1:   2015 Done in 208 days - 212g for Second Cosponsor    

Spoiler

04/27/15- NOA1 Recieved                                                    
06/02/15 - NOA2 Recieved
09/22/15 - Interview       (221g for more documents (a SECOND cosponsor), see profile for more details!)                                            
11/09/15 -  ISSUED!!                                                              
11/10/15 - Passport received                                                
02/20/16 - Wedding!              

                                         
 AOS:   2016 Done in 77 days - No RFE, No Interview                                                                    

Spoiler

04/08/16 - I-485, I-765, I-131 AOS Application recieved by USCIS
04/12/16 - 3 NOA1's received in mail
05/14/16 - Biometrics for AOS and EAD
06/27/16 - I-485 Case to changed to "New Card being produced"  (Day 77)
06/27/16 - I-485 Case changed to Approved! (Day 77)
06/30/16 - I-485 Case changed to "My Card has been mailed to me!"
07/05/16 - Green Card received in mail! 

 


ROC:   2018 - 2019 Done in 326 days - No RFE, No Interview

Spoiler

 

05/09/18 - Mailed out ROC to CSC

05/10/18 - CSC Signed and received ROC package
06/07/28 - NOA1 

06/11/18 - Check cashed

06/15/18 - NOA received in the mail
08/27/18 - 18 month extension received (Courtesy Copy)

09/18/18 - Request for official 18 month extension
10/22/18 - Official 18 month extension received 

02/27/19 - Biometrics waived 

04/29/19 - New card being produced!
05/09/19 - USPS delivered green card! In hand now!

 

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