Another norm breaking tweet

[jg121783 3,921]

5 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Judging by your reaction I would say it's a no.

🤔

 

Do you ever get tired of trying to push your conservative agenda? 

Here's the deal. Trump laid out his jobs policies when he was campaigning and Obama said his goals were unrealistic given the economic conditions at the time and said something about Trump waiving a magic jobs wand (can't remember the exact quote). He also claimed a 4% GDP was impossible and never achieved 4% during his whole presidency. Trump accomplished both things Obama claimed were impossible. I do not believe that any president controls the economy 100% but their policies can have a major effect. I do not buy the argument that Obama's policies had anything to do whatsoever with our current economic conditions. I have yet to see anyone making that claim who backs it up with examples of Obama's policies that supposedly helped our current conditions or how they did so.

 

As far as me being a "conservative" goes you don't seem to know a whole lot about me or my views on things. If anything I am more of a Libertarian or independent. I have "conservative" views when it comes to fiscal policy and immigration but I have "liberal" views when it comes to things like drug decriminalization and other social issues. Essentially I am a constitutionalist who for the most part believes you should be free to do whatever you want as long as you don't harm anyone else. It is pretty rare that I support any politician left or right because most of them are corrupt sadly. I supported Trump mostly because of his fiscal and immigration policy among other things. I didn't expect nor did I believe he was a choir boy and I don't agree with him on everything. I hope I made my views clear to you.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

Here's the deal. Trump laid out his jobs policies when he was campaigning and Obama said his goals were unrealistic given the economic conditions at the time and said something about Trump waiving a magic jobs wand (can't remember the exact quote). He also claimed a 4% GDP was impossible and never achieved 4% during his whole presidency. Trump accomplished both things Obama claimed were impossible. I do not believe that any president controls the economy 100% but their policies can have a major effect. I do not buy the argument that Obama's policies had anything to do whatsoever with our current economic conditions. I have yet to see anyone making that claim who backs it up with examples of Obama's policies that supposedly helped our current conditions or how they did so.

 

As far as me being a "conservative" goes you don't seem to know a whole lot about me or my views on things. If anything I am more of a Libertarian or independent. I have "conservative" views when it comes to fiscal policy and immigration but I have "liberal" views when it comes to things like drug decriminalization and other social issues. Essentially I am a constitutionalist who for the most part believes you should be free to do whatever you want as long as you don't harm anyone else. It is pretty rare that I support any politician left or right because most of them are corrupt sadly. I supported Trump mostly because of his fiscal and immigration policy among other things. I didn't expect nor did I believe he was a choir boy and I don't agree with him on everything. I hope I made my views clear to you.

Good post and if I could concentrate long enough to write that long of a post , it would be exactly the same. I mirror you 100%

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Good post and if I could concentrate long enough to write that long of a post , it would be exactly the same. I mirror you 100%

Me too! Two great posts ^^^^

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

13 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

But his approval rating is still in the negative. Why is that? With employment numbers like that he should be in the 60s approval rating.

How many times have you voted in those polls and reduced his rating?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

9 hours ago, Umka36 said:

Out of curiosity, is twitter really that fun? From my take, it seems to get people in trouble.

I have no desire to be a twatter, personally.  Don’t get it at all.  And really wish somoene would change Trump’s password on his account.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Here's the deal. Trump laid out his jobs policies when he was campaigning and Obama said his goals were unrealistic given the economic conditions at the time and said something about Trump waiving a magic jobs wand (can't remember the exact quote). He also claimed a 4% GDP was impossible and never achieved 4% during his whole presidency. Trump accomplished both things Obama claimed were impossible. I do not believe that any president controls the economy 100% but their policies can have a major effect. I do not buy the argument that Obama's policies had anything to do whatsoever with our current economic conditions. I have yet to see anyone making that claim who backs it up with examples of Obama's policies that supposedly helped our current conditions or how they did so.

 

As far as me being a "conservative" goes you don't seem to know a whole lot about me or my views on things. If anything I am more of a Libertarian or independent. I have "conservative" views when it comes to fiscal policy and immigration but I have "liberal" views when it comes to things like drug decriminalization and other social issues. Essentially I am a constitutionalist who for the most part believes you should be free to do whatever you want as long as you don't harm anyone else. It is pretty rare that I support any politician left or right because most of them are corrupt sadly. I supported Trump mostly because of his fiscal and immigration policy among other things. I didn't expect nor did I believe he was a choir boy and I don't agree with him on everything. I hope I made my views clear to you.

Wow.  Post of the year right here, me thinks.  And if we were all to sit around the campfire in person, I suspect many of us here would pan out about the same way.  (Minus a few, of course)

 

Had a lively conversation with a gay libertarian from CA the other day, centered around politics.  Very lively and animated, more so on his part, but we both got to share our views.  At the end of an hour, I was still straight, he was still gay.  He still thinks Trump is a worse president than Hillary would have been.  Neither of us were able to solve the national debt problem.  But at the end of the conversation, we were still friendly to one another.  Invited myself to go out with him for drinks, and he accepted.  That’s the way it should be, IMHO.

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3 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

if I could concentrate long enough to write that long of a post

[furious calculations to see where this ranks on the Fright scale...]

[Jacque67 7,328]

Former government officials and private-sector economists were critical of the president’s move.

“This certainly was a no-no,” tweeted Ari Fleischer, former White House press secretary for President George W. Bush. “The advance info is sacrosanct - not to be shared.”

Jason Furman, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Barack Obama, wrote on Twitter: “If this tweet is conveying inside information about a particularly good jobs number you should never get them in advance.”

Mr. Kudlow said he saw no need to change the procedures for briefing Mr. Trump on future jobs reports.

“I don’t tell the president what to do. I give him the information,” he said. “When I get the numbers, I will determine whether I think the president needs to hear it, or whether it’s not important enough to bother him.”

One person close to the White House, and familiar with the process by which the monthly job numbers are released, said Mr. Trump has “been told before that every piece of economic data that he receives the night before he can’t comment on until 9:30 a.m. the next day.”

Asked if the tweet resulted from a breakdown in White House processes, the person added: “It was a breakdown in his conduct.”

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says-he-is-looking-forward-to-jobs-report-1527855202

hmm. Wonder what he, Jr, Jared, Ivanka and Tiffany will cook up at camp David this weekend. #BeBest!

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

20 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Here's the deal. Trump laid out his jobs policies when he was campaigning and Obama said his goals were unrealistic given the economic conditions at the time and said something about Trump waiving a magic jobs wand (can't remember the exact quote). He also claimed a 4% GDP was impossible and never achieved 4% during his whole presidency. Trump accomplished both things Obama claimed were impossible. I do not believe that any president controls the economy 100% but their policies can have a major effect. I do not buy the argument that Obama's policies had anything to do whatsoever with our current economic conditions. I have yet to see anyone making that claim who backs it up with examples of Obama's policies that supposedly helped our current conditions or how they did so.

 

As far as me being a "conservative" goes you don't seem to know a whole lot about me or my views on things. If anything I am more of a Libertarian or independent. I have "conservative" views when it comes to fiscal policy and immigration but I have "liberal" views when it comes to things like drug decriminalization and other social issues. Essentially I am a constitutionalist who for the most part believes you should be free to do whatever you want as long as you don't harm anyone else. It is pretty rare that I support any politician left or right because most of them are corrupt sadly. I supported Trump mostly because of his fiscal and immigration policy among other things. I didn't expect nor did I believe he was a choir boy and I don't agree with him on everything. I hope I made my views clear to you.

So you are saying that Obama doesn't deserve credit because you personally think his policies did not work. 

But ...Trump deserves credit because Obama said that his economic goals were unrealistic? ( Too soon to even determine their overall impact) 

 

I'm sorry, but that statement is completely bias. 

And just kinda proves the original point. While you may be a liberal for social issues(which is another argument)  ... You are trying to push a conservative agenda. 

 

 

 

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

So you are saying that Obama doesn't deserve credit because you personally think his policies did not work. 

But ...Trump deserves credit because Obama said that his economic goals were unrealistic? ( Too soon to even determine their overall impact) 

 

I'm sorry, but that statement is completely bias. 

And just kinda proves the original point. While you may be a liberal for social issues(which is another argument)  ... You are trying to push a conservative agenda. 

 

 

 

 

I know right. Same thing when they would not give Jimmy Carter credit for Reagans economy 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

18 hours ago, IDWAF said:

Wow.  Post of the year right here, me thinks.  And if we were all to sit around the campfire in person, I suspect many of us here would pan out about the same way.  (Minus a few, of course)

 

Had a lively conversation with a gay libertarian from CA the other day, centered around politics.  Very lively and animated, more so on his part, but we both got to share our views.  At the end of an hour, I was still straight, he was still gay.  He still thinks Trump is a worse president than Hillary would have been.  Neither of us were able to solve the national debt problem.  But at the end of the conversation, we were still friendly to one another.  Invited myself to go out with him for drinks, and he accepted.  That’s the way it should be, IMHO.

So in summary you had an lively and animated time with a gay guy for an hour and invited him for drinks afterward 

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

18 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I know right. Same thing when they would not give Jimmy Carter credit for Reagans economy 

I can't really comment on that, because it was before my time. 

[jg121783 3,921]

2 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

So you are saying that Obama doesn't deserve credit because you personally think his policies did not work. 

 

I am saying I have seen people including you claim Obama's policies somehow had a positive impact on our current economy. No one has given an example of the policy or policies from Obama that allegedly contributed to our current economic conditions and how they contributed. Do you want to be the first to give it a try?

 

2 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

But ...Trump deserves credit because Obama said that his economic goals were unrealistic? ( Too soon to even determine their overall impact) 

Not only did Obama say his goals were unrealistic. He said goals that have now been accomplished were unrealistic. 

 

2 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I'm sorry, but that statement is completely bias. 

And just kinda proves the original point. While you may be a liberal for social issues(which is another argument)  ... You are trying to push a conservative agenda. 

You caught me red handed. I have a bias. In case you didn't notice almost every post by everyone here has a bias one way or another including you. So what's your point?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

7 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So in summary you had an lively and animated time with a gay guy for an hour and invited him for drinks afterward 

Reported.  Blocked.  And you have a package coming in the mail...