2017 K1 Statistics Show Almost 40% Denial Rate!?!?

[Teemo 252]

3 hours ago, Springrain22 said:

What does "current President" have to do with those denials? Stop watching TV, please. I can say that under current administration immigration system has improved.

I certainly don't want to wade into a political debate, and there is very likely some things that have improved in the immigration system recently. But it is undoubtable that the processing times have DRAMATICALLY slowed down in the last 1-1.5 years, even as prices have gone up. 

 

That's not even a criticism btw, it's possible that they are doing a better/more thorough job than they did before and that is what is needed. 

Edited May 31, 2018 by Teemo

[dirtyhippiegirl 85]

1 minute ago, jskibo said:

I bought a car 11 years ago, it was cheaper than the one I bought this year too....shocking!

That is a bit illogical. Were they exactly the same cars? It's not like the K1 has changed. Fees have gone up something like 150% for the same service. And it's SLOWER. You don't even get faster service for the price increase. 

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23 hours ago, Ben&Zian said:

If I am seeing those numbers same way as you are, it is a lot of denials; but it doesn't specify where these denials happened. I am going to make an assumption a lot of those denials came from 'high fraud' countries. Or perhaps things came up while in AP.  I wouldn't be stressing Trump being the issue with this. Other years may be fairly similar honestly in approval and denials.

it says on the very top : world wide.

 

the numbers look very off.

[Springrain22 427]

12 minutes ago, dirtyhippiegirl said:

How so? My husband came over 11 years ago on a K1. It was significantly cheaper and faster back then.

I was talking about quality. Lots of people who have tried to cheat the system have been stopped. Times and prices have increased because of additional scrutiny required. Too many people came here to play games, which became much harder under current administration. 

[Springrain22 427]

6 minutes ago, Teemo said:

I certainly don't want to wade into a political debate, and there is very likely some things that have improved in the immigration system recently. But it is undoubtable that the processing times have DRAMATICALLY slowed down in the last 1-1.5 years, even as prices have gone up. 

 

That's not even a criticism btw, it's possible that they are doing a better/more thorough job than they did before and that is what is needed. 

Of course, they have slowed down. Two reasons:

 

1) more people started to apply, MUCH more. Just look at the statistics, the number of applications. Do not even compare it to what was 2 years ago.

2) Prices have gone up for EVERYTHING, not just immigration. Current administration has nothing to do with it. They put additional scrutiny in the process (which is good) so yes, it became slower and more expensive, but the quality of the process has raised. Only those who really want to immigrate will do so. This is good.

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2 minutes ago, Springrain22 said:

I was talking about quality. Lots of people who have tried to cheat the system have been stopped. Times and prices have increased because of additional scrutiny required. Too many people came here to play games, which became much harder under current administration. 

Do you have any sources for this? Or is this just an assumption that's been channeled through the right wing news sources you watch? I am simply not aware of any studies done on spousal/K1 applicants who gamed the system. Also 9/11 was much fresher when we applied. The scrutiny was certainly there.

[Springrain22 427]

2 minutes ago, dirtyhippiegirl said:

Do you have any sources for this? Or is this just an assumption that's been channeled through the right wing news sources you watch? I am simply not aware of any studies done on spousal/K1 applicants who gamed the system. Also 9/11 was much fresher when we applied. The scrutiny was certainly there.

I have no official source (nobody has it) but I can tell by a lot of threads that I have seen online.

[Michael2017 368]

Can you guys leave political ####### out of this thread? We are here to discuss immigration issues not politics.

There are offtopic threads for this purpose, please don´t waste the time of the people who are here for relevant topics.

[Teemo 252]

22 minutes ago, Springrain22 said:

Only those who really want to immigrate will do so. This is good.

I hate this line more than anything. The idea that intentionally and artificially causing much more pain and frustration over a longer period of time being a good thing is so misguided. There is a real human cost to making bona fide spouses be apart for years at a time or in disincentivizing high skilled workers in being attracted to come here. A perfect immigration system would be very fast for the people who really qualify and quickly eliminate those people who won't, not just increase all processing times and frustration for everyone. I am married to a US citizen, should the administration artificially increase the processing times by a year more for me just to see if I really want it, and make me and my spouse needlessly suffer in the meantime? In an ideal world, USCIS would quickly ascertain if our relationship is legitimate and I qualify for residency, and decrease the backlog and processing times, and any movement away from that is regression, not progress. 

 

Again, I note that this isn't a political comment or any comment on the current administration, just the notion that "increasing pain means only people who want to immigrate will do so, therefore increasing pain in the process is a good thing."

Edited May 31, 2018 by Teemo

[Springrain22 427]

3 minutes ago, Teemo said:

I hate this line more than anything. The idea that intentionally and artificially causing much more pain and frustration over a longer period of time being a good thing is so misguided. There is a real human cost to making bona fide spouses be apart for years at a time or in disincentivizing high skilled workers in being attracted to come here. A perfect immigration system would be very fast for the people who really qualify and quickly eliminate those people who won't, not just increase all processing times and frustration for everyone. I am married to a US citizen, should the administration artificially increase the processing times by a year more for me just to see if I really want it, and make me and my spouse needlessly suffer in the meantime? In an ideal world, USCIS would quickly ascertain if our relationship is legitimate and I qualify for residency, and decrease the backlog and increasing processing times, and any movement away from that is regression, not progress. 

There's no "ideal world" and "perfect immigration system". Forget about it. Also, keep in mind, that immigration is a privilege and not a right. Nobody promised that it will be easy and fast. Stop dreaming.

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32 minutes ago, Teemo said:

I certainly don't want to wade into a political debate, and there is very likely some things that have improved in the immigration system recently. But it is undoubtable that the processing times have DRAMATICALLY slowed down in the last 1-1.5 years, even as prices have gone up. 

 

That's not even a criticism btw, it's possible that they are doing a better/more thorough job than they did before and that is what is needed. 

When I did my K1 the process was a lot longer than it is now.

[Teemo 252]

2 minutes ago, Springrain22 said:

There's no "ideal world" and "perfect immigration system". Forget about it. Also, keep in mind, that immigration is a privilege and not a right. Nobody promised that it will be easy and fast. Stop dreaming.

Huh? Of course there's no ideal world. But you understand that expression right? That means that any movement towards an ideal world is good, any movement away from an ideal world is bad. That's the point of the expression.

 

No one said immigration is a right. Like I said if they ascertain someone is not qualified they should be rejected quickly. And no one said "easy," but yes the faster the better, as long as quality is not sacrificed. You're using a straw man logical fallacy where you pretend my argument is something else and then you attack that argument, not my actual argument. 

[Michael2017 368]

Ok , so the OP asked for rejection rate of CR1. Can we stop politics and answer rejection rates of CR1? There are no real statistics for CR1, but, everyone can give his assumption based on experience... mine is 95% final approval rate.

Edited May 31, 2018 by Michael2017

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~~One post removed as requested by the poster. Thread also moved to General Immigration- Related Discussion, from K1 P&P This is not a K1 Processing question.~~

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